Posted on 06/21/2013 7:03:06 PM PDT by Altariel
If you are wondering and have read everything I've written on this thread than your reading comprehension level could use some tweaking. I'm not for onerous intrusive laws. I simply wish some dog owners or potential dog owners would be more careful in assesing the responsibilities inherent in the freedom they wish to exercise. Same thing goes for firearms owners, vehicle drivers, chainsaw operators, parents, etc.
The dog’s wounds had nothing to do with being tied out. You hijacked the thread with your rant on tying up dogs.
Several dogs have been shot by police in homes, one was killed in an apartment recently. There is another thread this morning where a police officer shot a dog in the owner’s fenced in front yard.
I see the problem as some out of control LEO, they shoot dogs no matter where you keep them. That is becoming a big problem. As a dog owner you might want to think about that.
By fenced in run, I was thinking more of a dedicated fenced kennel with shelter, typically with a slab floor and overhead fencing, not just a fenced yard. In some cases, hunting, cattle and other working dogs are better maintained in such enclosures as their instincts and efficiency are dulled when they become a household pet. IMHO, this is not irresponsible as the owners view their dog as a critical, highly specialized tool and will typically invest a whole lot more in their upkeep and maintenance than a typical dog owner who just wants (and values) a companion dog.
I do admit a good professional kennel is acceptable. Most people not big into dogs don’t get real good kennels.
Otherwise, dogs shouldn’t be kept outside. It’s not just for their safety, but for the rest of society too.
BS. Certainly, the cop is culpable and primarily responsible, as I've stated repeatedly, over and over and over again. And yes, cops have shot dogs and people in houses. I'm not disputing any of that, but you want to keep fighting that fight.
That said, I made no "rant" on tying dogs up. I simply stated my opinion, that if you have to tie your dog up outside unsupervervised, you really shouldn't have a dog.
That's my opinion, and nobody is going to change it, particularly with the weak, ill-informed, melodramatic, emotionally based arguments you've made.
I agree...LEO are in far too many cases out of control and unaccountable. That's just one of many very good reasons why you shouldn't leave a dog tied up unsupervised and at the mercy of unaccountable cops who decide to traipse through your yard. You bellow that cops are (certainly in this case) the problem, but then you argue that taking a reasonable step to protect dogs from them and limit their exposure to them (i.e. securing them in a residence) is somehow the wrong thing to do.
...I suspect some of them simply have out of control dogs they can't trust in the house or aren't willing to dedicate a proper amount of time to and are simply trying to defend their own irresponsibility.
Nope. Dogs were outside, not tethered and the owners were home. If you think that situation has any relationship whatsoever to the opinions I've expressed, re: dogs being tied up and unsupervised, than you really have some serious reading comprehension issues.
And that’s why I had trouble as mentioned earlier with an owner who had no control over his dogs and kept them out while they all worked all day.
Again it’s one thing if circumstances necessitate the dog outside unwatched, but another if they’re doing it all the time.
I just have to go through a whole lot of surreal, mental contortions to come up with a set of circumstances that would make tying my dog up outside, unsupervised the best option on a single day, much less every day.
You NEVER KNOW what may be happening at any given time. Hole blown through the house, have to leave. Can’t get back in the house. 9/11. Other crises more important than the dog right now.
Judgement of people is needed on a case-by-case basis. Generally yes you wouldn’t do that, but sometimes things happen.
Like I said, I have to go through a lot of surreal mental contortions to come up with an example. Perhaps if aliens hovered their mother ship above my town and threatened to use their death ray on every person who didn't leave their dog tied up unattended, then yeah, I might possibly consider it my best option. That is a real possibility.
I won’t condemn a person until I know just why they left the dog out once.
Anything else is just unfair.
So you don't think she's still tying the dog up outside when she goes to work?
Hmmmmm. I wonder what might have prompted her to make that decision.
I’m not talking about this case. I’m talking about any given person who might have done something like it once.
I’ve witnessed and been victim of people who did it on a constant basis. I’m not condemning someone who might need to do it once. And yes, there might be occasion to do so.
Did I miss that thread?
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