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Cop Hits Little Girl With Motorcycle Then Shoots and Kills Angry Dad [Aug. 2012]
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Posted on 06/19/2013 8:32:15 AM PDT by Altariel

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To: Altariel
I'm having a difficult time with some of the posts on this thread.

Bottom line: if this was a private citizen (not a cop) who performed the EXACT SAME actions, you'd be calling the father a thug for attacking the motorcycle rider. Then you'd give the shooter kudos for exercising his G-d given 2A rights.

Some of you people are capable of being despicable hypocrites.

61 posted on 06/19/2013 9:15:22 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: JCBreckenridge

How do you know he was driving carelessly? The girl might have darted out in front of him.


62 posted on 06/19/2013 9:15:45 AM PDT by norcal joe
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To: Altariel

Of course, it is the cop, not the four year old, who is the victim.

I forgot, we must defend our government employees at all costs, Comrade.

After all, when it is your daughter, your niece, your granddaughter, or your female relative who lies bleeding, and the governement employee who struck her believes his *occupation* is more important justification to relate than a *fervent, sincere apology for causing a tragic accident*, at least you’ll have the satisfaction of saying:

“Oh, you’re a police officer, that’s different then. I thought you were a mere mundane who struck my daughter/granddaughter/niece/female relative.”

This is obviously a difference in values. My mom was injured in a serious accident. The guy fled the scene of the accident. I never thought of hunting him down and administering a beating. Stuff happens. And my mom wasn't even darting into traffic like this little girl - she was standing in the middle of the road between lanes and the moron hit her.

63 posted on 06/19/2013 9:16:09 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: thefactor

I can’t fathom of a single non-government employee who would say “take it easy, I’m a ________” in response to such an accident.

But you are welcome to prove me wrong.

Have any links demonstrating otherwise? Non-government employee strikes a child and tells the child’s relatives to “take it easy, I’m a _______”.


64 posted on 06/19/2013 9:19:59 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Zhang Fei

I’m sorry to hear about your mother.

However, you are comparing two different bad responses: fleeing the scene of an accident, and suggesting one’s occupation trumps an accident victim’s relatives emotions.

Yet the fellow’s occupation somehow justifying his actions never occurred to you, I hope. I doubt you would think better of the fellow who hit your mother whether he were a cop, a librarian, a football player, the town drunk or a priest.

Occupation is irrelevant-—apologizing to the victims and making restitution for the wrong committed is what matters.


66 posted on 06/19/2013 9:23:42 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: norcal joe

The girl was out with her 18 year old cousin.

Here’s how I see it.

Cop is on bike, and in a hurry, not paying attention.

kid and 18 year old care crossing the street, biker doesn’t see them, till he has to bail.

Cop bails, hits and injures kid who thankfully doesn’t die.

I’m a cop. I know I just made a huge mistake and I have a dad running at me.

The first response of the cop should be to call for emergency assistance. He may not have his phone on him because he ditched. His first thought, (and would have saved the life of the father), should have been, “hang on, let me call an ambulance”.

The cop doesn’t have very long, say a couple of minutes after ditching to make up his mind. He might not have even gotten up before the father was on him.

Tough situation here - but there has to be a better solution than shooting the father and shooting to kill.


67 posted on 06/19/2013 9:24:11 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Un Pere, Une Mere, C'est elementaire)
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To: oh8eleven

No, the four year old girl was obviously the victim.


68 posted on 06/19/2013 9:24:21 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: JCBreckenridge

Well said.

Thank you.


69 posted on 06/19/2013 9:25:21 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel

Most cops have basic (and annual) first aid training. They are also trained to identify themselves.

It is perfectly normal to act on training in situations that you have trained for. It also serves the purpose of letting the bystanders know that he will not flee the scene of the accident and is trying to help.

This cop did nothing wrong and you should get over your knee-jerk irrational hatred of all things LEO.

Many of them may be your allies in TEOTWAWKI.


70 posted on 06/19/2013 9:28:28 AM PDT by Valpal1 (If the police can t solve a problem with brute force, they ll find a way to fix it with brute force)
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To: eyeamok

I would have been so devastated from hitting that child that shooting someone would be the last thing on my mind.


71 posted on 06/19/2013 9:29:10 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: oh8eleven

“The careless ones are the irresponsible father and cousin”

One, the cousin was with the child. The child wasn’t alone and wasn’t unsupervised. 18 is well old enough to watch and look after a 4 year old.

Two, do we have any independent witnesses to corroborate the story of the cop?

Three, even if the child (who is too young to know), was hit by the cop, the cop is still responsible for endangering the life of the child. It is the responsibility of the motorist to drive with sufficient care.

Four, the cop shot to kill the father. He escalated the situation after thankfully avoiding two people die.

“you cop-haters on FR”

A cop driving with undue care is a cop who’s putting the lives of other people at risk for his convenience.

A father who was out enjoying a quiet dinner while his child and a cousin were out on a walk - is now dead becuase of this cop.

I hope they get a gigantic payout.


72 posted on 06/19/2013 9:29:39 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Un Pere, Une Mere, C'est elementaire)
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To: Valpal1

“This cop did nothing wrong and you should get over your knee-jerk irrational hatred of all things LEO.”

A fatherless, injured four year old would probably disagree with you.


73 posted on 06/19/2013 9:29:59 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Norm Lenhart

Different circumstances for Zimmerman.


74 posted on 06/19/2013 9:31:09 AM PDT by wastedyears (I'm a gamer not because I choose to have no life, but because I choose to have many.)
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To: Altariel

Bm


75 posted on 06/19/2013 9:31:42 AM PDT by Popman (Godlessness is always the first step to the concentration camp.)
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To: Altariel
When an accident occurs, the person responsible for the accident, if he has any honor or dignity, doesn’t say “take it easy, I’m a police officer” to relatives of the victim.

The person(s) responsible for the accident are the 18-year-old cousin and the 4-year-old girl for walking into the street in front of a moving vehicle.

76 posted on 06/19/2013 9:32:15 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS
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To: Rich21IE

Especially those in charge of Chicago.


77 posted on 06/19/2013 9:33:08 AM PDT by DPMD
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To: oh8eleven

I am completely appalled at what I am reading on this thread.

If one actually READS what happened rather than the headline, it is difficult not to despise the relatives of the little girl and sympathize with the police officer.

And yes, I know I wasn’t there, and there are a lot of details I don’t know, but I know what emotions the headline produced, and I read the story, so I know what that says.

Sheesh. Some of these Freepers...


78 posted on 06/19/2013 9:33:43 AM PDT by rlmorel (Silence: The New Hate Speech)
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To: IYAS9YAS

Ahh, so now a four year old is responsible for a government employee traveling at such unsafe speeds that either (a) directly striking the child with the bike or (b) bailing from the bike are the officer’s only options.


79 posted on 06/19/2013 9:34:34 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: rlmorel

Do you typically sympathize with people of any occupation traveling at such unsafe speeds that their only recourse is to bail from their vehicle in the hopes it will miss or directly hit a child with said vehicle?


80 posted on 06/19/2013 9:35:47 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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