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1 posted on 06/15/2013 10:29:45 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Or they may just betired enough of microSoft that they buy an Apple or Linux system


2 posted on 06/15/2013 10:31:56 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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i'll run 8 when they pry XP from my cold dead fingers...
3 posted on 06/15/2013 10:32:34 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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That’s what I would do to a company that offers me ‘no choice’ and supper crappy operating systems.

Aleternatively, someone may step up and fill the ‘security window’ hole.


4 posted on 06/15/2013 10:33:31 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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XP is so much better and easier to operate next to Vista and Windows 8 that I will keep my XP. It is a Jewell. I would guess that the kids will like Windows 8 because it looks so much like a game and they can’t easily hit the wrong key and mess things up because everything is so hidden.


6 posted on 06/15/2013 10:34:12 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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Far more likely: businesses will move even more from big PCs and into tablets. A market where HP is weak and blew their shot with their WebOS debacle.


8 posted on 06/15/2013 10:36:28 AM PDT by Yossarian ("All the charm of Nixon. All the competency of Carter." - SF Chronicle comment post on Obama)
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Sometimes one wonders what these people are smoking! Our company moved most people to Windows 7 due to the impending XP support expiration. I just moved off XP this year.

Windows 8 is not designed for desktop users who have work to do. It is slanted toward the media centric, social networking activity of home users. One of my co-workers saw the writing on the wall and purchased 5 copies of Windows 7 in order to avoid being forced to Windows 8 until after 2020.

Even Google threw in the towel on businesses when they renamed their Android application store the “Play Store”.


10 posted on 06/15/2013 10:41:56 AM PDT by the_Watchman
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I am hoping that linux that bridge that last 5% gap in usability that puts MS and other big corporations in a tight spot.


11 posted on 06/15/2013 10:44:19 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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Windows 8 is a natural progression in the post-literate society. We first moved from command line driven operating system shells to visual icon driven programs, where you can’t talk directly to the OS, to where, most of us being illiterate we see nothing but pitchers in Windows 8 tablet interface. progres. Give me the command line.


15 posted on 06/15/2013 10:46:10 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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Good luck. I still have an Xp and 2003 systems and I found emulators to run some of my current hardware.

I’m stuck in the last century.

Heck I even use vmware so I can run 2003 on my current machines.

I hate the new menu interfaces and


17 posted on 06/15/2013 10:48:39 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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HP needs to focus on making printers like they used to. The printers they turn out now is marginally adequate at best.


18 posted on 06/15/2013 10:48:41 AM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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Then they will hold onto Windows 7 as long as possible once XP is pried out from under their clinging fingers.


20 posted on 06/15/2013 10:49:55 AM PDT by pallis
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I’m still running Win98 on a couple of my computers. And XP on the rest, except for one Vista and one Win 7. I can’t tell the difference most of the time. It bothers me far more when they change the Office Suite.

I find Office 2010 difficult to navigate. They’ve moved and hidden all my favorite tabs. I like the 2003 version much better.


23 posted on 06/15/2013 10:53:21 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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Oddly, the "Open Source" proponents don't mention the the open source project called Classic Shell over at Source Forge that let's you have the Windows XP desktop on Windows 7 or 8.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/classicshell/?source=directory

24 posted on 06/15/2013 10:54:40 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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HP does not “get it”.

MS does not “get it”

not even apple gets “it”.

we don’t want to and will not spend money unless it saves money. I will not spend money for a “pretty screen”.

If buying ONE win 8 box means I can fire one employee and have the rest do their work then it might work.


27 posted on 06/15/2013 11:07:48 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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I'm the only one on Windows 8 at work. Of course, like almost every business user out there, I live in the ‘desktop’ window, and almost never have any of the Metro interface working. (I do, ahem, use it for music to listen to while working...)

Now, the day the new PC arrived, I had sitting next to me Windows 7 to install on the PC. I had automatically assumed that Windows 8 would be an utter failure, and any ‘playing’ I did on the system would be to humor the person who didn't really want to splurge on the cost of the OS.

Instead we used that disc to upgrade the (lone) Vista machine to 7.

I get about 40% more work done in the day since going to 8. About half of that improvement is simply due to the increased performance of the machine I'm working on. Windows 8 has drastically raised the bar for performance specs, and while it will operate on a stripped down machine, most business class machines aren't stripped down.

The other half comes from improved memory handling. I deal with a considerable amount of online content as part of my daily work. Many of those windows are massive in size, and my typical day before the new machine would be get half way through the day, and then start all over again, as I had to shut down all my windows, load them back up, and continue on. It was a huge time waster each day.

Like any business user, I do not run any metro based apps as part of my work (I do use the Music program, which has mostly replaced my Zune...) All of my work takes place on the desktop interface. And I use a combination of IE10 and Chrome (Chrome mostly for webmail interfaces, IE10 for all the company webwork.)

Here's the bad parts about Windows 8. 1) Come on, Microsoft? Can you think of a worse way of handling software updates than to shut someone down in the middle of the work day 3 days after the upgrade arrives? You need to pay attention to when updates have been downloaded, or else you'll get a surprise ‘your system is shutting down in a half hour, you may want to save your work now’ message, with zero methods to delay this time waster.

2) Logging in using a Windows Live ID... No business wants you to drag your apps from home onto the office PC, and this has got to get eliminated in business versions of Windows 8. It is nice for the home user to have multiple computers with the same apps, but that ends at the office doorway. Yep, completely solved by using a different ID for work, but that isn't Microsoft's goal.

3) An awful lot of opportunity to get distracted - from the simple mistake of hitting that windows key (and being transferred right back to the metro interface) or from taking the cursor towards the side of the screen to scroll down a page (and having the search/etc tab pop in..)

The good, however, vastly outweighs the problems, and it works very well for me. Testing others on the same system shows similar improvements for what we're doing. For what most of the rest of the world are doing? Probably wouldn't assist them. Windows XP would still work out just fine today as it would ten years from now.

So in the end, Windows 8 works for me. Would I transform the average office to it? Not in a million years. They seriously need to strip out the entire metro interface for most business installations, disable the pop-ins, and the Windows Live IDs. For a home user? I'd suggest that it would give a generally much improved experience, especially over the average Windows XP machine. Just be utterly aware that whatever mail you get on a Windows Live ID (hotmail, MSN, Outlook.com) will dramatically and immediately change the advertising you'll see on web pages.

Google might be the search king, but in having instant changes to ads aimed at the web surfer, Microsoft has your number. Then again, Yahoo has gone out of their way to make their mail utterly unusable, while Google has improved theirs.

All in all, would I pay extra money for Windows 8 at home? No. Would I go out of my way to re-install Windows 7 on a Windows 8 computer? No. But I'd sure deeply consider a touch screen over a standard monitor, and would prefer Windows 8 for a laptop than Windows 7.

32 posted on 06/15/2013 11:16:16 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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I didn’t know HP still makes PCs. I thought they just sold under-priced printers and way over-priced ink cartridges.

I can understand HP’s pleasure with new Operating Systems being released frequently because it allows them to declare vast numbers of their old printers unsupported, causing them to need replacement. Many hands were rubbed in glee at HP when computers started shipping with Vista, rendering a large number of perfectly working printers useless because their drivers were broken.


33 posted on 06/15/2013 11:17:08 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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good riddance!

Let old farts and cheapskates keep XP on their old Pentium 4s.

They will still be sittting here bragging about being able to ping a server 12 years from now like it was some victory over Microsoft for darin to make new OSs.


37 posted on 06/15/2013 11:26:07 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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I recently rebuilt my desktop and installed Windows 7. I am very pleased with its stability and features and won’t be missing Windows XP. I have tried Windows 8 and find the learning curve quite high. Things are very different than previous versions of Windows and I will not be in any hurry to upgrade to Windows 8.


44 posted on 06/15/2013 11:34:53 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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I was "forced" to buy W8 because most all the new notebooks have it, and getting a similar new W7 notebook would have cost me hundreds more. I think W8 Pro allows you to revert to W7.

The Metro(sexual) start screen is Fischer Price, but can be configured to be somewhat useful, though it takes some work. Feel free to delete the crap you don't want. W8.1 is rumored to bring back the traditional start button, which would correct a huge mistake.

That being said, W8 shuts down and boots fast. It has a traditional desktop, and you can toggle between it and Fischer Price with the Windows key. God mode is useful. W8 Home lacks the group policy editor and virtual machine, but if you need to run XP on your W8 Home, this page will save your butt: http://lifehacker.com/5965889/how-to-run-windows-xp-for-free-in-windows-8
46 posted on 06/15/2013 11:35:41 AM PDT by 867V309
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I’ve been using my Dell w/ XP for - I dunno - 8 years? At least?
It’s going nowhere.


47 posted on 06/15/2013 11:36:09 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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