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To: Ray76

Usagi_yo is right although I don’t think the ideas were expressed as well as they could be.

1St, Bengazi is important but it would be almost impossible to call that an impeachable event.

Because lack of judgement, lack of information or inadequate advice from military officers, etc., is not grounds for impeachment and one or all of those would be his plea.

In other words, Bengazi will go down as bad decision making, not treason, even though I personally believe that it was treason.

Yes, Rice lied but nowhere in the paper trail do we find that obumbler wrote her little speech for her.

The IRS thing is a totally different matter and it occurred because of the evil people with which he has surrounded himself.

The EPA. DHS, IRS, State Department and all of the rest need to be cleaned out and that could happen as a result of the NSA and IRS scandal, because it is obvious that the same approach to government and its relationship to the citizen is present in all of those departments.

Once these departments are headed up by decent men/women, the facts of Bengazi will be discovered. Government will become more transparent.

The place to start is to replace the IRS and its ridiculous tax code with a sales tax paid by every purchaser, rich or poor.

When people see what this government is costing them every time they purchase something, they will suddenly take issue with things like spending millions to determine how snails have sex, a NSA building that cost billions equipped at the cost of many more billions and requiring more billions in annual operating costs, all for the purpose of controlling the citizens and how they vote.

Terrorism is the excuse. Controlling elections is the reason.

That is definitely an impeachable offence.

Funded and managed by the IRS.


22 posted on 06/08/2013 10:46:31 AM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: old curmudgeon
Cross post from another thread:

Forget the coverup and misdirection. What was going on at Benghazi?

If Obama gave an rescue order and it wasn’t obeyed he would be leading the charge to find the breakdown. But he is not.

He either didn’t give a rescue order or the order was to stand-down.

Testimony is that two stand-down orders were issued. If those stand-down orders did not come from Obama he would be leading the charge to find who did. But he is not.

A reasonable conclusion is that Obama gave the stand-down orders.

If Al Qaeda was not involved there would be no reason to scrub references from reports. Why would AL Qaeda involvement need to be kept secret?

A reasonable conclusion is that an operation involving AlQaeda was compromised, stand-down orders were given: personnel at the scene were expendable. A known false story about a video was pushed.

A reasonable conclusion is that a operation involving Al Qaeda had to be concealed.

What was going on in Benghazi? Were arms given to AlQaeda?


A series of increasingly spectacular scandals have appeared.

First the Benghazi scandal was morphed into a coverup scandal.

Then the new scandal of the IRS admitting sua sponte that conservative groups were targeted.

Followed by Obama firing an acting IRS director who was due to step down anyway. Pure theater.

Then the AP story. Then charging a reporter with espionage. And now the NSA spying on citizens.

The diversion has been ongoing.

What was going on at Benghazi?

26 posted on 06/08/2013 11:03:13 AM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: old curmudgeon

1St, Bengazi is important but it would be almost impossible to call that an impeachable event.

Because lack of judgement, lack of information or inadequate advice from military officers, etc., is not grounds for impeachment and one or all of those would be his plea.

In other words, Bengazi will go down as bad decision making, not treason, even though I personally believe that it was treason.


There is so much more to Benghazi and that is why the administration and assistants want people to shut up about it.


34 posted on 06/08/2013 11:24:56 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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