[[I cited two Greek (St. Basil the Great and St. Gregory of Nyssa) and one Latin Father of the Church (Blessed Augustine), all of whom lived in a culture and intellectual environment far closer to the Holy Apostles than we do, all of whom were dubious about taking the narrative of Genesis literally]]
And I’m sure you are aware that key parts of their ideologies/doctrines have been refuted over the years? Martin Luther, also a scholar, and also livign closer to the apostles than today’s teachers, vehemently dissagreed with the Doctrines of the day- and he showed scriptural reasons why he oppsoed thsoe doctrines, and really, to date, there hasn’t been any scriptural responses to hisd objections to thsoe doctrines- onloy ideological objectiosn to his scripture based objectiosn of the doctrines-
Again- I appreciate that you beleive the early pioneers of the Catholic faith- However, if you are goign to support their ideologies, then you ar goign to need to provide more than ‘They said so’ as that kind of response is not specific enough to address bliblically The type ‘discussion’ we’re having now jjust really only amouinjts to one religion havign an ax to grind against another relgion without anythign to back up the claims being made-
You said “all of whom were dubious about taking the narrative of Genesis literally”
That’s swell- nowp lease explain why- I’ve explaiend with evidence why a literal reading shoudl be done- and why there is no good reason why anythign but a literal reading should be done- Because it contradicts God’s word- and I’ve shown why it contradicts it-
yopu are attemtpting to deconstruct Genesis 1:5-24- and to do so, You’ll need to decosntruct/explain away, other passges throughout His word which support a definition ofa 24 hour period of time i nregards to the creation week days— Again, impltying that we are nothign but ignorant neanderthal, superstition beleiving, bible clingers who stick their greasy grimy unkempt fingers in our ears whenever we hear that ‘scholars who l lived closer to’ The apostles formed an ideology (albeit an inconsistant with scriptures ideology) that “God must have meant a ‘long period of time’ when talking abotu hte creation week record”, isn’t a valid refutation of the evidneces agaisnt your claims
God’s Word is Our Lord Jesus Christ. The Scriptures are the books His Church reads. I am increasingly of the view of Tertullian that those outside the Church (by which I, like all Orthodox Christian, mean what is now commonly called the Eastern Orthodox Church) have no right to appeal to them against the Church.
Heretics like Luther (or for that matter Leo X, or any of the other Pope of Rome since the Latin schism from the Church) have not refuted the teachings of the Fathers of the Church, but presented specious (usually rationalistic) arguments against them. Christianity is not an ideology founded on a text, but a way of Life founded on a Person. Again, if you won’t read an essay that begins with that as its starting point, it is you who are impoverished. Now this is a strange thing: you are willing to read and engage, for or against, all manner of argumentation that is not “Biblical” when supporting ID, but won’t read an essay of Scriptural exegesis that starts from something other than your own preconception of how the Scriptures should be read.