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To: JCBreckenridge; Alaska Wolf
No myth or fable, JC. I read the same reports you did. When they said that they held him back and tased him to keep from going into a burning building, and then say at the same time that the child was already dead and they were processing the fire scene...those two simply do not add up.

Alaska, I know the drill. There were two parts of my statement...the burning building and processing a fire scene. If they knew the chiold was dead and went into a building to reciver the body at risk to their life, then that does not match up with restraining the father. If they had the body and were processing the scene, then the father should have been told that.

I work for the Federal Government and am trained as and had been a 1st responder for a number of years.

JC, unless you are privy to direct, early reports from the departments involved, there has been no "factual evidence" introduced yet. Just a reporter saying what someone else said.

So we have two reports that do not agree and we have a report of an already dead child whose time line does not match up to what they said about the father.

Like I said, if it turns out that the child was dead, clearly there was no reason to go back in the building. But, if they actually knew that and didn't inform the father and instead tased him, then that is simply wrong and does not add up.

That's all. My statement stands. If there was any chance the child was alive...you save the child. That was the initial report.

If the child was dead...and that becomes substantiated...then they should clearly have informed the father and mother, and helped them in their grief...not with hold the information and then tase the father on the day his child died.

But now the discussion is becoming circular, and I have stated nmy thoughts and feelings on the matter.

133 posted on 06/05/2013 8:51:52 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Jeff Head

:No myth or fable, JC. I read the same reports you did. When they said that they held him back and tased him to keep from going into a burning building, and then say at the same time that the child was already dead and they were processing the fire scene...those two simply do not add up.”

Umm, yes, they completely add up.

You just refuse to accept eyewitness testimony that contradicts your sincerely held believe that the cop was wrong.

Which again, puts us in the realm of myth and fairy tales.


134 posted on 06/05/2013 8:54:12 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: Jeff Head

“not with hold the information and then tase the father on the day his child died.”

You taze him if he’s refusing to listen to reason and insists on rushing into the burning building to ‘see with his own eyes’ that his child is dead.

Grief is a hard thing. I’ve been there with my own family. I know what it feels like to lose a family member suddenly.

I didn’t have the luxury of falling apart because the rest of my family was relying on me. I had to keep everything together, inform the rest of the family, inform the folks they worked with, etc, till they got better and could function again.


135 posted on 06/05/2013 8:57:07 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: Jeff Head
Alaska, I know the drill.

As do I. I was also a first responder and take all these stories/reports with a grain of salt.

137 posted on 06/05/2013 9:31:56 PM PDT by Alaska Wolf (I)
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