Richard Wagner: The man, the myth, and the anti-Semitic music

Haaretz ^ | 5/25/2013 | Ofer Aderet

[Borges]

Oops should be 5/23

[Borges]

Classical Ping

[ClearCase_guy]

“I have no interest in besmirching him ..." but if I were to besmirch him, here is what I would say ...

[gov_bean_ counter]

Kill the Wabbit

Sorry, but Bugs Bunny forever tainted Ride of the Valkyries for me.

[Sherman Logan]

“Only Jesus, Napoleon and Hitler had more written about them,” said the German newspaper Die Welt’s culture affairs critic Manuel Brug recently.

I doubt it. Possibly in German.

[left that other site]

Music is made up of Pitches, Frequencies, Intervals, Harmonies, Rhythms, Tempi, Contrast between Legato and Staccato, Dynamics, and an ephemeral quality known as “soul”.

How antisemitism can be conveyed with any combination of the above is a mystery to me!

Of course, when one adds LYRICS, one can say anything!

But the music itself is neutral.

[Bryanw92]

>>a deep-rooted anti-Semitism as well as misogyny.

Oh, the horrors!!! A European man born 200 years ago was guilty of those crimes against humanity. I’ll bet he wasn’t GREEN either! Let’s add that to his list of crimes.

He probably ate MEAT too.

I’m feeling a case of POUTRAGE coming on.

[Overtaxed]

Magic helmet.

[gov_bean_ counter]

LOL!!!

[Sirius Lee]

Music is made up of Pitches, Frequencies, Intervals, Harmonies, Rhythms, Tempi, Contrast between Legato and Staccato, Dynamics, and an ephemeral quality known as “soul”.

His grandson needs to step up to the plate and edit out the anti-Semitic ones. I've always been suspicious of C flat. It's pretentious.

[Vaquero]

Vikings and bee keepers SCTV
Song near the end

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=s4B_PY2vveQ&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Ds4B_PY2vveQ

[nomad]

How about this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn4Iuxy0X4I

[left that other site]

C flat is indeed pernicious! It sometimes masquerades as a B!

[gov_bean_ counter]

Beginning at 04:15...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ajg7FlPv0HU&list=PLCA3A295AF772AEE4&index=11

[firebasecody]

OMG! The brown note!

[joethedrummer]

I never quite understood his lyrics. I feel like a real dummy finding out they were racist and sexist after all this time!

[nomad]

Hows this for kill da wabit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTS-PMXyE4Q but she does have Bette Davis eyes

[driftless2]

So if we go back in the past and discover hateful, racist stuff written by other great people from the past, should we throw out all their works too? I don’t ignore Wagner’s cruddy, racist views. But if I quit listening to, viewing, or reading the works of great composers, writers, artists from the past because they had racist or objectionable views about other people, I’d have a very short list of people whose works I could use for my own enjoyment.

[Malone LaVeigh]