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To: Cold Heat
LOL, you've just answered your own criticism about why three phase was used. You have to remember that these devices are not built just for "skeptics tests", but are prototypes for eventual commercial devices. OF COURSE some of the final products will use three-phase power, for exactly the reasons you mention. There have been other Rossi prototype devices tested which used single-phase.

And the "modified waveform" is possibly what is needed to help trigger and control whatever quantum effect actually drives the reaction. Brillouin (another company working on a commercial LENR approach) claims precisely this, and they call it a "Q" pulse.

Of course, what the waveform is is irrelevant, as they are measuring (by multiple different means) the INPUT currents and voltages INTO the drive circuitry.

530 posted on 05/29/2013 5:27:43 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog
LOL, you've just answered your own criticism about why three phase was used. You have to remember that these devices are not built just for "skeptics tests", but are prototypes for eventual commercial devices.

Is that why the morons left the ground wire unattached?

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And these aren't skeptic tests. They are demonstrations intended to dazzle suckers so they will buy distribution rights to something that will never exist.

532 posted on 05/29/2013 5:59:02 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Wonder Warthog
LOL, you've just answered your own criticism about why three phase was used. You have to remember that these devices are not built just for "skeptics tests", but are prototypes for eventual commercial devices. OF COURSE some of the final products will use three-phase power, for exactly the reasons you mention. There have been other Rossi prototype devices tested which used single-phase. And the "modified waveform" is possibly what is needed to help trigger and control whatever quantum effect actually drives the reaction. Brillouin (another company working on a commercial LENR approach) claims precisely this, and they call it a "Q" pulse. Of course, what the waveform is is irrelevant, as they are measuring (by multiple different means) the INPUT currents and voltages INTO the drive circuitry.

All that would be interesting if it were true...

There is no need for the three phase unless they simply did not have a DC converter for the (inductive heaters) Not the resistive ones they described in the paper.

They are using Triacs, I did not take note of that before....just missed it...

A triac is a SCR. It is a silicon controlled rectifier. It's used in all sorts of applications but when you use a three channel or three phase (means three triacs) then you have the ability to create a pulsating DC that is nearly pure.SCRs clip portions of the sine wave based on how you set them up. You can hack away the negative portions of the wave leaving the positive peaks and with three you can purify those peaks into a nearly perfect DC power signal that has a bit of a attitude or better said frequency.

I never used anything like this unless I was making a inductive heater, something that occasionally come up when you are serving a manufacturing business that say.....needs something heated up with no flame, like a 55 gallon drum of flammable stuff....or whatever...

Any decent electrician can build a induction heater out of spare parts and get you cooking...I have found that a pulsing DC power is better than a transformed down AC in terms of speed and quantity of heat. I have seen induction ovens using this principle. But frankly I just saying what can be done with it. I don't know why he's using those triacs.

Any before someone calls me out on this again, I will acknowledge that he dumped the triacs in the second test relacing them with a black box controller to which he gives no description. The testing guy talks about it as if it's some sort of great thing that is now single phase yet still has three phase inputs.......LOL....I can't stand this anymore......

This control box ...he went on to say....turns off the power for a time then back on.....yadda yadda....

What's funny is that he is describing the rudimentary way that a SCR rectifier or (triac) functions. He is describing the SCR gate voltage. So they just hid the triacs in the black box.

Is it just me or is anyone else getting tired of the hide and seek game.....I know I am...

547 posted on 05/29/2013 9:18:42 AM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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