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To: Cold Heat

Then publish your findings and save the world from this supposed con artist. Vortex is a good place to start because they can give you the level of scrutiny your findings need. But you can start wherever you want. Best of luck with your project and eventual fame.


516 posted on 05/28/2013 11:35:37 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo

Don’t need no fame......just peace and quiet.....gonna get that in another two years when I move to the woods...

I’m not saying this guy is a fraud. I don’t know him.

But what his people are doing or did with this test leads one to conclude that they are not being very forthcoming with their device and are doing the absolute minimum necessary to get someone to say they might have something interesting. Which is pretty much all they said...

The testing people should have been a bit more critical of the restrictions but they chose not to be. So I don’t read much into this test and as I said, I need a lot more now, just to stay interested..

Hope you here from this bunch again...You may not, but if you do I am sure you will post it.


519 posted on 05/28/2013 11:45:42 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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To: Kevmo
Then publish your findings and save the world from this supposed con artist. Vortex is a good place to start because they can give you the level of scrutiny your findings need.

You should keep this garbage on Vortex where it belongs, and where you are surrounded by true believers. It would also give you more time to learn how to post a link in HTML.

Cold Heat is obviously more qualified to do electrical measurements than you or Rossi's gang of 7 incompetent and corrupt academics.

531 posted on 05/29/2013 5:51:46 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Kevmo
I never called him a con artist or even a supposed one, but when you come across stuff like this, you kinda wonder...

Note******* I did not write this. It was a comment made on this article.

http://futureinnovation.larc.nasa.gov/view/articles/futurism/bushnell/low-energy-nuclear-reactions.html

*************************************************** JT • a year ago −

Reading comments I noticed that a lot of people is wondering about Rossi's e-cat, and I would like to tell you the truth about it.

So, first of all do let's do a presentation of the character, Rossi, who has brought the issue of lenr/cold fusion (you pick the name) to the fore by astonishing statements.

Rossi holds a degree in philosophy in Italy and obtained the title of chemical engineer by purchasing a fake degree in the United States at the Kensington University. Towards the end of 1970 he founded the Petroldragon in Italy and claimed to be able to achieve what he calls "refluopetrolio" (a sort of petrol) using a distillation process of municipal and industrial waste. It was actually a trick to charge companies for the disposal of toxic waste storing it in warehouses without proper security measures (due to the fact that, by virtue of its nonexistent method to process it, it was passed off as raw material or fuel). The result was, aside from legal problems in which Rossi incurred, a lot of money spent by municipalities to clear up the areas that he had filled of such wastes.

Now, these are the facts. He recently appeared with Focardi, a retired physics professor who had worked for some years to the study of cold fusion without achieving any appreciable result, saying that, thanks to his mysterious catalyst (that not even the professor knows), he was able to get stunning results of energy gains.

The alleged invention (let's call it the box) is a sort of box containing nickel powder, hydrogen and a "secret catalyst"; this mixture, after being initially heated, would be able to start a nuclear fusion. But here starts the first problems, neither Rossi himself is very clear about it. At the beginning of the story the box was declared producing gamma rays as evidence of nuclear fusion, now these rays became negligible or absent (the energy of the future must also be safe, don't you think?).

Let's analyze Rossi's behaviour in this story:

- He does not want to give details and does not want to open the box in the name of protection of trade secret, without knowing, or pretending not to know, that a scientific publication (in addition to grant him immense honor and an unknown, but very high, number of scientific and social awards as human saviour) constitutes a patent per se, so his attitude does not make sense. He prefers to make the fool of himself by looking for a mean profit.

-He never agreed to do a controlled experiment to test the effectiveness of the box. He spread videos and pictures that prove nothing, organized "demonstrations" in which guests could only watch and biased by methods of measurement (as well as by a suspect power generator always plugged to the box) that many experts have considered very little reliable.

-He purchased a website by the name of "Journal of Nuclear Physics", to simulate a scientific journal and make it appear as the international scientific community agrees with his work and is wondering about cold fusion. Needless to say, this site is full of absurd articles that contradict any physical principle known.

-He subsequently announced a joint venture with a Greek company, then aborted, a collaboration with the University of Bologna, then aborted (actually Rossi had promised € 500,000 to the university to study the box, but has never paid), and various and mysterious clients, institutional or otherwise, of which no one knows anything.

-He made a lot of claims of good results and imminent commercialization of the box but that time never arrives... there is always something new that arises and prevent it.

-Currently his company, Leonardo Corporation, according to Sterling Allan, sells industrial plants for energy production to 2,000,000 dollars each on their site in convenient containers, yet Rossi has never stated that the plants are ready for the market. By the way, these test plants sometimes are in the USA (no one knows where), sometimes are also in Italy (no one knows where either).

I think these informations are sufficient to remove all doubts about the story, Rossi's e-cat is a scam. Let me repeat, Rossi's e-cat is a scam.

I know it would be beautiful if it were true, but this is why the scam works so well, these cheaters use our hope as a psychological leverage to make us believe their claims, don't fall for it.

gbgoble > JT • a year ago

558 posted on 05/29/2013 1:39:53 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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