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Cold fusion reactor independently verified, has 10,000 times the energy density of gas
Intrade Gateway via Extreme Tech ^ | May 21, 2013 at 12:43 pm | Sebastian Anthony

Posted on 05/24/2013 6:35:28 PM PDT by Kevmo

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To: UCANSEE2

I could hear the pages of wikipedia fluttering.


201 posted on 05/25/2013 4:08:31 PM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: UCANSEE2

Is LENR a scaleable technology ?
***I think so, yes.


202 posted on 05/25/2013 5:24:20 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: teppe
If you are going to call someone an idiot, at least spell it correctly:
you're an idiot!

203 posted on 05/25/2013 5:35:22 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Unindicted Co-conspirators: The Mainstream Media)
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To: UCANSEE2

And that, my FRiend, is why many people are skeptical, and that was my point.
***Rossi has a terrible reputation. Those 7 scientists knew that, so they were extra careful to check & double check their results. In this way, the fact that Rossi is untrustworthy lends more credence to the results.

As in the phrase “A stopped clock is right twice a day”, it is possible that though continued work, Rossi has stumbled onto a concoction that works consistently. After all, Thomas Edison FAILED to invent a ‘consistently working’ light bulb for years.
***I think that’s very close to what happened here.

As far as trusting these 7 scientists, I don’t know them personally,
***That never seems to be a requirement for other scientific endeavors. Only LENR.

but it would seem that Rossi has worked on other projects with at least one of them, and those projects turned out to be scams. Is this not true?
***No.

Since GLOBAL WARMING EXPERT SCIENTISTS have made claims that are proving to be false, why would the average individual trust a few more scientists from Sweden?
***Because the measurements are so simple: power and temperature. Have you ever used a multimeter? A thermometer? When measuring your child’s temperature, how possible is it that you’d consistently make a measurement of 150degF? With several other people present... And then you throw out that thermometer and get a new one, same result. Even with this analogy, you are only supposedly making a mistake of 50%, not 10X.

The scientists you listed , on the average, are no more qualified in their fields than the GW scientists.
***They are qualified to make power measurements.

Basically, I am saying it’s hard to trust anyone these days when everyone seems to be compromising their integrity by SELLING OUT to the highest bidder. That is the reality that surrounds us that we must deal with.
***Then you’re stuck with an expanding conspiracy theory.

You may trust them, but, as you can see, others are not so quick to just blindly accept their ‘results’.
***Do you trust that the anomalous heat effect has been replicated more than 14,700 times, before Rossi ever came on the scene? These 7 scientists are putting their reputations on the line. Do you trust them to be able to read a multimeter and a thermometer?


204 posted on 05/25/2013 5:36:46 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: UCANSEE2

Raising the bar for cold fusion while lowering the bar for hot fusion. Hot fusion has consumed $hundreds of billions, so where’s my flying hot fusion car?


205 posted on 05/25/2013 5:39:19 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: UCANSEE2

Like Abe Lincoln’s answer to the reporter who asked how long his legs were — long enough to reach the ground.

How long will circumvention take? As long as it takes.


206 posted on 05/25/2013 5:40:53 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: count-your-change

Yes


207 posted on 05/25/2013 5:51:45 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: UCANSEE2

You’re avoiding this question.


208 posted on 05/25/2013 5:53:18 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: UCANSEE2

You’re avoiding this question

Where is the proof you claim?


209 posted on 05/25/2013 5:55:12 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: UCANSEE2

You’re avoiding this question

why do you put a quote around the word?


210 posted on 05/25/2013 5:57:03 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: UCANSEE2

You’re avoiding this question

There are just so many things wrong with this so-called verification
***Then address them. If someone measured a resistor by Power-in and Heat-out, do you require them to open up the resistor to see how it works?


211 posted on 05/25/2013 5:59:21 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo
***Do you trust that the anomalous heat effect has been replicated more than 14,700 times,

No. If it had, don't you think someone would have figured out 'how' this is working?

212 posted on 05/25/2013 7:05:40 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Kevmo
Raising the bar for cold fusion while lowering the bar for hot fusion.

Did I mention hot fusion ?

Hot fusion has consumed $hundreds of billions, so where’s my flying hot fusion car?

That's the same question I have, except I don't care whether it's hot or cold.

213 posted on 05/25/2013 7:09:23 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: UCANSEE2

Why don’t you? Do you think scientists made some error 14,700 times in a row?

If it had, don’t you think someone would have figured out ‘how’ this is working?
***Nope. This thing is very difficult, very tricky, it suffers from stigma and funding is virtually nil. Under those conditions, it takes more than 25 years to generate a breakthrough.


214 posted on 05/25/2013 7:10:37 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: UCANSEE2

Then you wouldn’t mind if, say 10% of the funds for hot fusion, which has given us NOTHING, would go to cold fusion, which has given us 96 hours and 116 hours respectively of an independent test. Just the latest, by the way. Hagelstein’s test ran for 6 months.


215 posted on 05/25/2013 7:12:13 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo
You’re avoiding this question.

It's difficult to answer invisible questions.

216 posted on 05/25/2013 7:12:23 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: UCANSEE2

you are avoiding these questions

***Because the measurements are so simple: power and temperature. Have you ever used a multimeter? A thermometer? When measuring your child’s temperature, how possible is it that you’d consistently make a measurement of 150degF? With several other people present... And then you throw out that thermometer and get a new one, same result. Even with this analogy, you are only supposedly making a mistake of 50%, not 10X.


217 posted on 05/25/2013 7:20:42 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo
Where is the proof you claim?

Proof of what?

BTW, here is an interesting link.

Andrea Rossi Energy Catalyzer (E-Cat) Master Timeline

218 posted on 05/25/2013 7:25:50 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Kevmo
You’re avoiding this question

"There are just so many things wrong with this so-called verification"

I think you got me mixed up with someone else.

219 posted on 05/25/2013 7:27:28 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Kevmo

I haven’t avoided anything. I enjoy the debate, and hopefully will learn from it. I am here to learn. What are you here for ?

May I ask, how come you seem to just lock onto ONE THING at a time and repeat it until everyone gets tired of you saying it?


220 posted on 05/25/2013 7:32:28 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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