E-Cat Test Coverage Roundup

ECat World ^ | May 22, 2013 | By admin

[Kevmo]

Toussaint on May 22, 2013 at 4:21 pm

This article from NewEnergyandFuel:

http://newenergyandfuel.com/http:/newenergyandfuel/com/2013/05/22/the-rossi-e-cat-ht2-test-report/

Roger Bird on May 22, 2013 at 1:50 pm

Here’s another article about the test: http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/156393-cold-fusion-reactor-independently-verified-has-10000-times-the-energy-density-of-gas

AlainCo on May 22, 2013 at 11:04 am

for the curious you can follow my scoopit http://www.scoop.it/t/lenr-revolution-in-process-cold-fusion

start to be crowded with mainstream news… many critical but so funny.

[Kevmo]

The Cold Fusion/LENR Ping List

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/coldfusion/index?tab=articles

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http://lenr-canr.org/

[Kevmo]

repost some links

http://newenergyandfuel.com/http:/newenergyandfuel/com/2013/05/22/the-rossi-e-cat-ht2-test-report/

http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/156393-cold-fusion-reactor-independently-verified-has-10000-times-the-energy-density-of-gas

scoopit
http://www.scoop.it/t/lenr-

[saganite]

That latest test was totally debunked according to another article posted here somewhere.

[Kevmo]

then go fetch it, if it exists

[Mr. K]

There is SOMETHING wrong here- if it was true it would be worth $$$kajillions...

What is he waiting for? cab fare to the nearest patent office?

Name the scientists who claim to have verified the results.

[saganite]

Here’s the article. I found it but not on FR.

http://news.newenergytimes.net/2013/05/21/rossi-manipulates-academics-to-create-illusion-of-independent-test/

[Kevmo]

Krivit’s obviously got an agenda and his ridiculous article is being ripped to shreds across the internet, such as on Vortex-L.

http://www.mail-archive.com/search?a=1&l=vortex- href=”mailto:l@eskimo.com”>l@eskimo.com&haswords=krivit&from=&notwords=&subject=&datewithin=3d&date=5%2F22%2F2013&order=relevance&search=Search

[Kevmo]

Name the scientists who claim to have verified the results.
***They’re all listed here:

http://arxiv.org/abs/1305.3913

[saganite]

True believers. Krivit makes valid points. It’s not an independently verified test but more of Rossi’s manipulation of observers to a test he controlled. I place a hell of a lot more confidence in what Krivit has to say than another dog and pony show by Rossi.

[Kevmo]

I place a hell of a lot more confidence in what Krivit has to say than another dog and pony show by Rossi.
***Actually, your skeptopathic cognitive dissonance is blinding you from seeing that you’re stacking up a guy like Krivit (basically an english major, no scientific training) against the 7 professional scientists who wrote the independent report.

[saganite]

You didn’t bother to read the article did you? For anyone else on this thread I encourage you to go to the link and read Krivit’s report. You don’t need to be a scientist to spot deliberate manipulation of the test.

[PapaBear3625]

Here’s what I want to see:

1) A test conducted at a lab of an independent scientist; and

2) Where Rossi only supplies that reactor cylinder plus any power module needed; and

3) The device’s power module is run off the lab’s outlet, with the independent scientist supplying the equipment which measure’s power input; and

4) The device operating inside a calorimeter which can accurately measure heat output; and

5) The test running at least 48 hours.

This stuff has been happening for several years at this point, with no product and no really independent tests.

[Paradox]

This stuff has been happening for several years at this point, with no product and no really independent tests.

I got excited about the test results, because even though I am a skeptic, I really, really wish this stuff would pan out. I have been interested since Pon's and Fleishman's original work.

But in this case, sadly you are correct. I know they are interested in protecting their intellectual property, and in the end, they will either be wildly rich and famouse, or they will end up infamous.

[Kevmo]

Did you bother to read the original report that Krivit is criticizing? Krivit seems to think these 7 scientists are all incompetent. He’s in meltdown mode.

You don’t need to be a scientist to spot deliberate manipulation of the test.
***Then it should be real easy for you to point it out.

[Kevmo]

Moving the goal posts.

Rational people will see this for what it is, a simple set of tests of a black box and independent verification of heat generated that is an order of magnitude beyond chemical capabilities. It’s not even as if the device was allowed to continue running, it was shut down before it could consume all its fuel.

Regular skeptics will acknowledge that this is reasonably powerful validation of LENR and even for (cough) Rossi. Skeptopaths will continue to move goal posts, come up with more ridiculous possibilities (have you heard the one about lasers being shined on the cylinder?) and basic unfounded denial.

[saganite]

Whatever. When Rossi turns his device over to an independent lab and they verify his results I’ll be a believer. That’s how it’s supposed to work. Until then it’s all smoke and mirrors.

[bigbob]

So, IF (and I will say “when”) the E-Cat is proven to work, will FR be placing a group purchase for CROW, do you think? ;-)

[Kevmo]

I doubt it. Most of the skeptopaths will just slink away, muttering stuff under their breath and buying stock in LENR-related companies.

LENR will go on if Rossi is a crook, so it would be a long time before I have to eat crow. If he’s a crook, I hope he goes to jail. Nothing wrong with checking into the situation.

[Kevmo]

When Rossi turns his device over to an independent lab and they verify his results I’ll be a believer.
***Rossi did exactly that. You moved the goalposts.