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To: Perdogg

The 14th Amendment provides citizenship by birth in the US to legally residing, but non citizen parents. (jus soli) Sorry pal, but the 14th amendment did not change the legal understanding of Natural Born Citizenship. It only recognizes another way to become a born citizen (no need to naturalize) other than being a Natural Born Citizen (born in country to citizen parents)

It should be noted that the vast majority of citizens of any country consists of people born in that country to Parents that are it’s citizens. These children are the Natural Born Citizens. (see Minor) The court recognized that there may be the possibly other kinds of, or ways to become a born citizen, but that being Natural Born, born in country to citizen parents, carried no doubt of citizenship.

As far as Article II eligibility requirements for holding the office of President, requiring that a candidate be born in the country to citizen parents (NBC) is no great burden/onus, nor is it in any way unreasonable. It still leaves the vast majority of American citizens eligible.

In fact the requirement of Natural Born Citizenship makes the most sense in outlining the bare minimum eligibility requirements which Article II does.

Your interpretation of the 14th amendment is flawed. In USSC WKA, the first application of the 14th Amendment outside of the children of former slaves, the plaintiff was declared a born citizen with no need to naturalize. What you are misinterpreting is the court’s attempt to prevent the establishment of classes of citizenship in that ruling attributable to the manner in which that citizenship was obtained, when they stated that WKAs rights were AS IF he was a Natural Born Citizen.....note that they were careful NOT say he WAS a Natural Born Citizen, only that the rights of all manner of citizens are equal, hereby avoiding the idea of classes of citizenship. You can try and thake that ball across the goal line, but you’re running in the wrong direction.

Further note that being a natural born citizen carries no cachet other than making one eligible to hold the office of the President.

Ignoring Article II of the Constitution despite it’s clear intent has lead us to the disastrous consequences of the Obama Presidency. To support the continued ignoring of that requirement (NBC) in it’s original meaning, is sheer folly. I am surprised that any self proclaimed Conservative could do so.

BTW its NOT OK when our guys do it.....any more than it was when the Treasonous Democrats did with Obama....


70 posted on 05/21/2013 11:09:11 AM PDT by Forty-Niner ( the barely bare, berry bear formally known as Ursus Arctos Horibilis...Hear me roar!)
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To: Forty-Niner

“As far as Article II eligibility requirements for holding the office of President, requiring that a candidate be born in the country to citizen parents”

It says no such thing. It simply says a president must be natural born. It did not define the term. Legislation establishes how citizenship is gained, in effect defining the terms the constitution used.


102 posted on 05/21/2013 11:34:45 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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