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To: stormer

El wrongo. The constitution mention aliens, natural born citizens, and citizens. The terms were not defined and were left to congress to define through legislation.
If you are a citizen, and you didn’t have to get naturalized, you are NBC.

In zeal to catch Obama, many try to imply a 4th type of citizenship. You are a citizen, but never had to be naturalized, but you are not natural born.

So we get treated to bizzare opinions as to how the mother must be 18, or rabbit trails through Canadian law, etc.
Cruz is NBC.
Besides, that bridge has already been crossed. Now he doesn’t even have to show a birth certificate to serve.
He cannot be require to pass any test for office that obama did not.


57 posted on 05/21/2013 10:49:05 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: DesertRhino; Ray76

I think people should look at this way. If a female Airman who is married to a Canadian businessman gives birth while serving in the USAF in England, the child would nbC.


60 posted on 05/21/2013 10:52:54 AM PDT by Perdogg (Sen Ted Cruz, Sen Mike Lee, and Sen Rand Paul are my adoptive Senators)
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To: DesertRhino

There are two kinds of citizens, natural born and naturalized. A person doesn’t have to be born in the US to be natural born, but the child has to be born of a US citizen and the parents have to obtain a Consular Report of Birth Abroad in order to convey US citizenship. Without that, there is no record of foreign birth of a US citizen.


103 posted on 05/21/2013 11:36:49 AM PDT by stormer
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To: DesertRhino

Boy that’s a real stretch! The only place that the Constitution mentions NBC is in Article II. NBC is a quality of Born citizenship. Besides born citizenship the only way to be a citizen is through Naturalization.

Because all Natural Born Citizens are born citizens does not mean the reverse is true, In fact it isn’t. Not all Born Citizens are NBCs. That quality is lacking in many born citizen circumstances.


109 posted on 05/21/2013 11:49:39 AM PDT by Forty-Niner ( the barely bare, berry bear formally known as Ursus Arctos Horibilis...Hear me roar!)
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To: DesertRhino
If you are a citizen, and you didn’t have to get naturalized, you are NBC.

All citizens who only became citizens through an act of congress are "naturalized" citizens. Ted Cruz owes his claim to American citizenship to the "Citizenship act of 1934." Without that law, or one like it, Ted Cruz would have no claim on American citizenship.

He is only a "citizen at birth" because congress SPECIFIED that his citizenship would commence at birth. Again, congress can specify any criteria they want, but it's not "natural" citizenship when they produce such a citizen.

It's "naturalization".

112 posted on 05/21/2013 11:59:32 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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