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To: taxcontrol
You are incorrect. It is not unlawful as the laws of that nation state allow for it. As to your assertion that it violates international law for a nation state to conscript forces during a time of war, please site the section of law which you think would be violated.

Would I get something in return for having gone to the trouble of looking this up? I am not of a mind to do it without some sort of benefit other than having been proven correct once more. And again, you are misstating my point. It is a violation of international law to compel someone to fight against their own country during a time of war.

Again, my only assertion is that US law governs US citizenship. You should stop projecting on to my statement anything further than that simple statement of fact.

The "simple" part is indeed correct. It is demonstrably devoid of any deep thinking, very much like the notion that mere birth within our borders makes one a "natural" citizen. We can see the consequences to the nation of believing this nonsense; Several millions of "Anchor Babies" who have no loyalty to this country, a massively booming "Birth Tourism" Industry, and a "Precedent" with more loyalty to any other nation but ours.

You are simply refusing to see that the bad consequences of such an idea are not "simple" at all.

214 posted on 05/22/2013 6:17:27 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp

So having been called on your incorrect assertion, and unable to back you assertion up with facts, you beg off supporting up your claims with facts. I truly understand.

The current laws of the US do in fact, make one a US citizen by birth within our borders. This was established by the Nationalization Act of 1940 and is reflected in Title 8 US code section 1401 (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1401). That is the “simple” (as in easy to understand, deal with, use or not complicated) fact. Disagree with that policy if you want. I know I do. I would rather see a meritocracy where citizenship is earned, not granted by the location of birth.

But again, the speculation and hypotheticals about Mr Cruz’s citizenship need to be viewed through the prism that US Laws govern US citizenship. No other nation’s laws govern. And thus, is little more than a tempest in a teapot. If US law say that someone is a US Citizen, then they are a US Citizen. If they are within the dominion of the US, then they can and often are, forced to abide by the rules and laws of the US under penalty of prosecution of our laws.


221 posted on 05/22/2013 6:52:00 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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