[Hulka]

From a close friend of mine, Vietnam-era F-4 fighter pilot (and in the record books).

[MestaMachine]

Excellent explanation, clear as daylight on a bright summer day. Except it wasn't an "embarrassing debacle'. It was CRIMINAL.

Anyone wanting on or off this ping list, please advise.

[MestaMachine]

Thank you for posting this. It is extremely informative,

[tennmountainman]

Excellent read from a Fighter Pilot that knows what he is talking about.

In addition, no one knew how long this firefight was going to last.
So, send the damn planes. We all hope the person(s) involved in giving
the order to stand down is exposed and shamed with tar and feathers.

[JimSEA]

Very clear. It put the lie to Obama, if that was necessary. I think any of us where once in the service, even in the Stone Age, pretty much thought like this was likely.

Gotta go now, it sounds like the IRS Swat team is here.

[whiterhino]

EXACTLY!!! Very well said.

[don-o]

I posted a link to this thread in Five myths about Benghazi

That is a thread I started to try to consolidate and catalog Benghazi related information. Thanks for sharing this

[Inyo-Mono]

Bookmarked.

[NonValueAdded]

Hear, hear!

[RockyTx]

did any F-16s get airborne from Aviano?

it seems to me that the prudent thing to do
would be to move some F-16s to NAS Sigonella,
even if they were held there.

[crosslink]

Thank you ,

For your information Cheney said, on one of the radio or TV shows, that a special OPS terror team was always based at Sigonella during the Bush years.He did not confirm one was there on Sept 11 but a good question to ask the Sec Def. If you listen carefully to all the people who have testified they always say US assets never including NATO assets. We now know they parse their words.

[crosslink]

See my post 23 was that team available .

[krogers58]

We hear that one of the ex-Seals had painted targets with a laser designator, which leads one to ask, what for? There were said to be two drones, at least one armed with Hellfire missiles, in the vicinity and an AC-130U gunship in close proximity but they were not given the commands to engage. I don't have to tell anyone here what an AC-130U Spectre gunship would have done to the towel heads. There is info all over the internet, and several links are:

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/10/27/U-S-Had-Two-Drones-AC-130-Gunship-and-Targets-Painted-In-Benghazi-But-Obama-Didn-t-Pull-The-Trigger

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/10/26/ac-130u-gunship-was-on-scene-in-benghazi-obama-admin-refused-to-let-it-fire/

The money question is who declined to use these assets, and why? Did the guys on the ground use a laser designator for no reason? This is really the biggest cover-up which surpasses the bogus cover story about the film.

[Elle Bee]

from the start I've never understood the stand down order. if a call came in that a fire had started would the engines not roll regardless the stage of the blaze?

why wouldn't boots have been sent to secure the area even if the attack lasted only minutes?

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