Not really his head though.
Posted on 05/05/2013 12:07:12 PM PDT by Borges
Like I said: Jeremy Bentham.
More people have heard of Beethoven than any single pop music figure.
“Mozart and Beethoven get performed worldwide more than any other single pop figure.”
We are not talking about single artists. We are talking about entire genre of music.
Go anywhere in the world. How many live classical music performances are there compared to live performances of popular music - fewer classical performances. The same is true for radio and TV and sales of recorded music.
As a genre, classsical music is simply not as “popular” as popular music in all its forms.
Live performances of classical music are harder to put together. If you don’t want to go by figures let’s go by the music itself. Famous Classical ‘tunes’ are better known than any single pop tune.
“More people have heard of Beethoven than any single pop music figure.”
Actaully I think you’re wrong. You might be sadly wrong but wrong none the less.
In today’s culture, worldwide, I think we’d actually find more people who have at least heard the name Lady Gaga than even know or have heard of Beethoven.
“Like I said: Jeremy Bentham.”
Is he “well preserved” or is he disintegrating?
“Famous Classical ‘tunes’ are better known than any single pop tune.”
Name one. Then I’ll look and see how many people in China and India and Indonesia and the Philippines, just to name a few places, actually know that tune verses how many there today know some iconic Whitney Houston tune. I think you’d be amazed at how popular western popular music is in “non-western” countries today.
For me the issue of our conversation is NOT what I like or don’t like in music. It’s only about whether a genre of music is the “most popular” or not. Classical is simply not “most popular”. It may be unfortunate, but it’s true.
Not really his head though.
“If you don’t want to go by figures.”
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. You have no “figures.”
“Not really his head though.”
But are you sayin that is his body??? Just not his head.
Yep.
“Thirty-six million Chinese children”
That’s about ten percent of a weekly telecast audience of China’s version of America’s Got Talent, in which, you guessed it, western “popular” music and Chinese popular music written and performed in the western “popular” style dominate.
And, of course, none of those performers or the audience learned any music except pop. OK. Sure.
Here Comes the Bride, the Ode to Joy, various Chopin pieces like the Funeral March. When I said figures I meant people.
Good friend of mine auditioned (violin) for the Spokane Symphony over the weekend. She told us flat out that whether she got the seat or not would depend on how many musicians came in from Minnesota for a long move, a large pay cut and a much smaller orchestra. Apparently it’s unraveling pretty fast.
“And, of course, none of those performers or the audience learned any music except pop. OK. Sure.”
I did not say “none”, I did say the majority never learned or were trained in classical music - the majority.
Its a funny thing - about our schools of music. The majority of our most well known and most successsful musicians never attended them; and a majority of those who have attended them are in the ranks of the always struggling and seldom very successful musicians, except for the few who are able to get into the extremely limited number of slots in the music welfare state that live classical music performance organizations have become.
The best thing that could happen to classical music would be to get the classical music performance companies off the public dole in every way, like most the rest of the music world is.
With regard to: “http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/JL02Ad01.html"; and its 36 million.
That represents about 10% if the weekly television audience of China’s version of Americas got talent, during which the “most popular” music is western “pop-rock-R&B-showtune” music and Chinese “popular” music in that style.
So, out of the 1 billion Chinese, how many are daily becoming familiar with “classical” western music and how many with “popular” western music? Sorry, even in China “popular” music has the edge.
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