>> RE: Obama is _very_ pro abortion, Romney is absolutely willing to make exceptions for incest, rape (killing the innocent), and “the health of the mother” (code-words for “at will” & status quo). — Voting for Obama or Romney therefore does nothing to end the American Holocaust.
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> I’m with you regarding abortion. I am not even willing to kill the baby even when the mother is raped. I’d rather we help the child get adopted.
We are in agreement there.
> But yet, what is LESS WORSE? To save some babies or not to save any baby at all?
Let me flip that around: which is worse to allow it to continue, or to make a token gesture that has no impact and then pat ourselves on the back as if we had done something?
This is not exactly a hollow hypothetical, the Gnosell trial is a perfect example of how the Partial Birth Abortion ban is impotent — what he did wasn’t exactly “an isolated incident,” but (though it’s not reported) more mainstream than anyone with a conscience would be comfortable admitting.
> Oh yes it is. Cutting corporate taxes to 25% and eliminating the death tax is NOT compromise.
> It is a HUGE STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
Again, the President has no such authority. That is altering law and properly under the Congress, not the Executive.
> Again, you are not given the best choice. You are given the choice between two evils. In which case, i have no choice but to select the lesser one.
That is only because you buy into a false dichotomy. — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma
> It has nothing to do with being Republican, it is simply a way of stopping, reversing or slowing down the greater evil.
No, it is not. It is the process of making the normal into extremes and the extremes into normal. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window
Ask yourself this: if you were presented with the Obama/Romney choice over and over again (different people, but the same premises), the only difference being how bad they were [really bad vs. pretty bad] do you not resign to embracing a policy of “the best that can happen is to stay the same”? — If that is the case, then at what point will you ever “reverse the evil” — the answer is you will not, not ever.
RE: Let me flip that around: which is worse to allow it to continue, or to make a token gesture that has no impact and then pat ourselves on the back as if we had done something?
Well, in this case, you would not have voted for Ronald reagan then. What did he do for the pro-life movement that prevented abortions from happening under his term?
It is better for someone to at least SPEAK OUT against the practice than not. Even a small light is better than total darkness.
If as you say, Gosnell’s case is not an isolated incident, then it has been happening since Roe vs Wade even under Reagan.
Are we then to argue that we’d rather not have a Reagan as President and allow the likes of Mondale or Carter to be President simply because he could not do anything about abortion?
rE: Again, the President has no such authority. That is altering law and properly under the Congress, not the Executive.
But HE HAS THE BULLY PULPIT. And I argue that a bully pulpit FOR tax cuts is better than the tired old Obama rhetoric we’ve been hearing. And again, i argue that if Romney had won, the two houses would have gone GOP.
RE: That is only because you buy into a false dichotomy. —
OK, I’ll bite. In a Romney vs Obama scenario, what is the third choice? And ask yourself what would have happened if enough people voted this way?
I argue that it is EXACTLY what we have now.
RE: Ask yourself this: if you were presented with the Obama/Romney choice over and over again (different people, but the same premises), the only difference being how bad they were [really bad vs. pretty bad] do you not resign to embracing a policy of “the best that can happen is to stay the same”? — If that is the case, then at what point will you ever “reverse the evil” — the answer is you will not, not ever.
Again, I’d vote for the Romney — IF — He keeps his promise to cut corporate taxes to 25%, eliminate the death tax and sign Obamacare repeal.
And yes, I believe he would have done that.
In a primary, I would have chosen someone else, and I did. However, it did not end up the way I wanted.
Therefore, I only have a Romney and Obama to choose.
Guess what I choose the lesser evil. Why? because to do nothing simply ensures the greater evil wins.