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To: Yaelle

I think that until he and Levin get their heads out of their hind ends about the difference between Rubio and a Conservative, they both need to shut up.

Yes, I am serious. Because it ain’t helping our cause.


8 posted on 04/30/2013 12:18:24 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart
Agree. His defense of Rubio was nonsensical. And Rush still doesn't seem to get it that you don't need a path to citizenship to call it amnesty. Any legislation that allows the lawbreakers to stay and work here, the object of their crime, is amnesty. A path to citizenship is just the cherry on top.

And Rush still doesn't understand that it is legal immigration that is changing the demographics of this country and has been ever since the 1965 Immigration Act. Amnesty only hastens the process.

21 posted on 04/30/2013 12:24:47 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Norm Lenhart

Seriously? Rubio is not helping our cause! Rubio wants to be the conservative savior that draws the Hispanic vote in, but there is plenty of evidence that this IS not the way. Not only that, but Schumer and Obama have played him for the fool. He will not get support from the tea party now and they both knew that this would be the death knell for him in that respect.

This is an amnesty bill any way you look at it. The democrats got everything they wanted AND more. We got NOTHING. NADA! No secure borders, we lost everything in the total bill. These people get to come in, enroll in food stamps, if not already, get on SS, Medicaid, every damn program out there will be available to them. My daughter-in-laws, who are legally in the process of citizenship get nothing out of this...and the others get citizenship AHEAD of them. Not only that, but it has broken the bank for both families to go through this process, having to do it over and again for one of the families because of corruption in the system. This bill gives the democrats permanent majority, I don’t care HOW MANY people say it doesn’t. These people know that it is the democrats who give all the goodies. They know this before they cross the border.

I am with Rush and Levin and all of those who are warning of the disaster that this bill is for America. Quit listening to Rubio and listen to someone who can explain it, and NOT IN POLITICAL terms. Rubio is trying to save face, but he is naive and has been used. I didn’t need him to join this gang of 8 to form my own opinion of him. I’d already seen and heard enough to know he is not a conservative through and through. He will take up those causes when enough of his constituents press him in it, but it is not his ideology. He is conservative in some areas only, and not strongly in any of them. He made a lot of stupid responses to things...AZ’s border law, etc. Then he had to back track them because he spoke before knowing what it was, something he does WAY TOO OFTEN for comfort. He’d be labeled another “W” in 5 seconds. He;s had a few good speeches, but I have not heard a truly great one from him. He tries to please both sides. He comes across as being conflicted. He is not a leader and America would suffer greatly with him as president now. He needs a lot more time to figure out what he really stands for.


74 posted on 04/30/2013 7:34:11 PM PDT by Shery (in APO Land)
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