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Black Box Recorders: Groundbreaking Safety Devices Or The End Of Privacy? (In all cars by 2015)
The Car Connection ^ | 4/16/13 | Richard Read

Posted on 04/19/2013 12:53:56 PM PDT by LibWhacker

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To: Buckeye McFrog

Yup, I hear you. I’m either going to have to get my a** to Mars, or to Barrett-Jackson/Mecum, which I’ve always wanted to do anyhoo. I have a feeling I’d better do it soon, though, before blackbox-driven demand drives the price of restored autos through the roof, ‘cause everyone who is incapable of restoring a car himself is going to have the same idea!


21 posted on 04/19/2013 1:26:15 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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22 posted on 04/19/2013 1:30:12 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

Yup, with all this talk of EMP lately, I don’t want a car with any computers, chips, solid state devices, black boxes, etc., anyhow! I’d even be quite willing to go back to the 50s. Loved those cars anyway.


23 posted on 04/19/2013 1:31:47 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Valpal1

Right now it just records diagnostic data for mechanics to jack into with their scan tool.
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I have heard of cases where say a Tractor Trailer with the ‘black box’ being ‘observed’ going over the speed limit a few miles/hours etc up the road and getting in a accident ‘NOT his fault’ and the defense claiming that proof of him speeding puts HIM at fault because if he hadn’t been speeding, he wouldn’t have been there at the precise time.

Probably ‘somewhat’ hokum BUT it surely wouldn’t surprise me.


24 posted on 04/19/2013 1:32:34 PM PDT by xrmusn (6/98 --I turn 75 next year- but remember, that's only 24 Celsius. (TKS R. Reagan))
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To: LibWhacker

First, they are NOT safety devices. They won’t do a ting to prevent an accident. They are being pushed by insurance companies so they can use the data in their lawsuits and the police so they can know who to ticket. Nothing more.


25 posted on 04/19/2013 1:36:17 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

You disable them - your car No Go.
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You have small imagination ,,, what if you modify it to use only 1k of memory instead of a few GB or write to a volatile memory location instead of non-volatile and leave the programs function alone ... I will get in on this myself...


26 posted on 04/19/2013 1:55:20 PM PDT by Neidermeyer (I used to be disgusted , now I try to be amused.)
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To: IronJack

Can’t you guys spell “solid sate memory”????????

Sold at you local 7-eleven as “Flash Memory Stick”, or some such. 16GBytes at least is now dirt cheap, and you can BANK on (much) bigger ones coming tomorrow ..............


27 posted on 04/19/2013 2:16:33 PM PDT by CanuckYank
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To: LibWhacker

Awfully nice of them, getting on board.

...after 96% OF NEW CARS ALREADY HAVE THEM!!!!


28 posted on 04/19/2013 2:28:50 PM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: LibWhacker

Flo, the insurance gal, is already using these devices under disguise of lowering your insurance rates.

Slow boiling the Progressive frogs.


29 posted on 04/19/2013 2:38:48 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: CanuckYank
Duh. I'm still back in the mag days.

I'd imagine the write interface is tamper-proof, so there's not much chance of being able to wipe the memory. But since the engine management module is feeding data into that memory constantly, there has to be some kind of interface you could tap into. And if you knew the microcode, you could erase the entire contents.

Or just enough of it to make the rest unreliable.

30 posted on 04/19/2013 2:45:37 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: hattend

Flo knows.....


31 posted on 04/19/2013 2:47:51 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: IronJack
A high-powered industrial magnet (like a bulk tape eraser) should scramble them enough to make them useless.

True, but who wants an immobile $40,000 Lexus in their driveway as a landscape sculpture?

32 posted on 04/19/2013 2:49:57 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
The restoration and renewal of old cars is going to be a booming growth industry over the next decade.

My 1978 Silverado has been begging me to be rebuilt. I guess it's about time. I got 20 years and 305,000 miles out of it the first time...it would outlast me this time.
33 posted on 04/19/2013 7:43:40 PM PDT by jy8z (From the next to last exit before the end of the internet.)
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