AND YOU ARE STILL DOING IT!!! The SALIENT ASPECT of the quote Is:
"born within the Republic, of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty, are natural born citizens."
PARENTS,PARENTS,PARENTS,PARENTS,PARENTS,PARENTS,PARENTS,PARENTS,PARENTS,PARENTS,PARENTS,PARENTS,PARENTS,PARENTS,PARENTS,PARENTS,PARENTS,PARENTS,
PARENTS,PARENTS,PARENTS,PARENTS,PARENTS,PARENTS,PARENTS,PARENTS,PARENTS,PARENTS,PARENTS,PARENTS,PARENTS,PARENTS,PARENTS,PARENTS,PARENTS,PARENTS,
PARENTS,PARENTS,PARENTS,PARENTS,PARENTS,PARENTS,PARENTS,PARENTS,PARENTS,PARENTS, PARENTS!
THE ENTIRE F****** ARGUMENT IS ABOUT PARENTAL ALLEGIANCE!!!!
It has ALWAYS been about Parental ALLEGIANCE. YOUR argument has always been "IT doesn't matter!" The Point in contention was whether or not Bingham supported YOUR interpretation that it doesn't matter at all, or whether Bingham insisted that the Parents owe no allegiance to anyone else.
Bingham SPECIFICALLY, and EXPLICITLY informed us that the ALLEGIANCE OF THE PARENTS does matter, Meaning his understanding is with US, not with you.
Here are your exact words again. First you quote Bingham.
“Who are natural-born citizens but those born within the Republic? Those born within the Republic, whether black or white, are citizens by birth — natural born citizens.”
Bingham clearly states that natural born citizens are those who are CITIZENS BY BIRTH.
And here is the rest of the quote which completely rebukes your claim regarding what Bingham meant.
There is no such word as white in your constitution. Citizenship, therefore does not depend upon complexion any more than it depends upon the rights of election or of office. All from other lands, who by the terms of your laws and compliance with their provisions become naturalized, and are adopted citizens of the United States; all other persons born within the Republic, of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty, are natural born citizens.
You Quoted a piece of what Bingham said while claiming it supported you, but you KNEW that the rest of the quote completely disproved your claim, yet you did it anyway thinking no one would check on you.
You demonstrated intellectual dishonesty (actually I would say it is a hallmark of your arguing style) and you demonstrated to everyone that you cannot be trusted to tell the truth. If you deceived about this, what else could you have deceived about? (In my opinion, pretty much everything.)
Okay. Of Parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.
I gave the full quote, in any event.
YOUR argument has always been "IT doesn't matter!" The Point in contention was whether or not Bingham supported YOUR interpretation that it doesn't matter at all, or whether Bingham insisted that the Parents owe no allegiance to anyone else.
No. My "argument," as you call it (although it's really only an ACCURATE representation of the history) has always been that since Bingham didn't give a definition or explain exactly what he meant by "PARENTS owing allegiance to no other sovereignty," we should look to see what ELSE he and the other Representatives and Senators said during the course of the debate in order to understand who that did and did not include.
And I made clear that neither Wilson (who was very EXPLICITLY AGAINST YOUR BS CLAIMS), nor Bingham (who was in the room while Wilson was speaking and made no objection whatsoever), nor Cook (who also was ABSOLUTELY EXPLICIT AGAINST YOUR BS CLAIMS) support the idea that anyone ever meant to include resident aliens as people who "had allegiance to some other sovereignty."
In fact, the words of both Wilson and Cook are absolutely, EXPLICITLY AGAINST SUCH A CLAIM.
Anyone who wishes the details can see posts 139 and 143.
That's why your claim is absolute BS.
As for your idiotic accusation of "intellectual dishonesty" on my part, while giving yourself a complete pass for a far worse offense, well, we've been over than already. A couple of times at least.
How many times do you want to go over it?