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To: Rides3

I see. So simply being “foreign born” as a parent is not always enough to disqualify an offspring from being considered natural born under Article II, Section 1.

There is zero proof that Chester A, Arthur ever lied about his father being foreign born. William Arthur was a well known minister in Vermont, He preached with a strong Irish brogue and the issue raised concerning Chester’s eligibility was whether he had been born in Canada or not. Fairfield, Vermont, Chester’s home town is about 15 miles from the Canadian border and the Arthur’s had lived in Canada prior to emigrating to the US.
Finally, the lie that Arthur is famous for is about his age. He took off a year for some bizarre reason.
William Arthur did become a naturalized citizen when Chester was 14 years old,


137 posted on 04/16/2013 5:49:57 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: Nero Germanicus
I see. So simply being “foreign born” as a parent is not always enough to disqualify an offspring from being considered natural born under Article II, Section 1.

Correct. Naturalized U.S. citizen parents may very well have been foreign born. If they naturalized before the birth of their child in the U.S., that child is a natural born citizen.

There is zero proof that Chester A, Arthur ever lied about his father being foreign born.

He didn't lie about his father being born, he lied about when his father was born, and when his father came to the U.S. Documented in the link I posted.

Besides lying repeatedly to try to obfuscate his family background, Chester Arthur burned his personal papers shortly before his death instead of donating them them to the Library of Congress, as do most U.S. Presidents or their heirs.

"During his lifetime, my father would never let anyone see them—not even me. When they finally came into my possession, I was amazed that there were so few. At my father's funeral in Albany, or rather at the interment of his ashes which took place several months after his death [July 17,1934], I enquired of all the cousins there assembled—the nieces and nephews of my grandfather, as to what had happened to the bulk of the papers. Charles E. McElroy, the son of Mary Arthur McElroy who was my grandfather's First Lady, tells me that the day before he died, my grandfather caused to be burned three large garbage cans, each at least four feet high, full of papers which I am sure would have thrown much light on history.

So wrote Chester A. Arthur III to Dr. Thomas P. Martin, then Acting Chief of the Manuscript Division of the Library of Congress, on April 15, 1938."

Source:
http://lcweb2.loc.gov/service/mss/eadxmlmss/eadpdfmss/2009/ms009139.pdf
138 posted on 04/16/2013 8:40:42 PM PDT by Rides3
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To: Nero Germanicus
Finally, the lie that Arthur is famous for is about his age. He took off a year for some bizarre reason. William Arthur did become a naturalized citizen when Chester was 14 years old,

It is believed by some that he took off a year to obfuscate attempts to look into his provenience. I have read several good articles on the subject. Arthur's actions make sense if looked at in light of better information. I'm not going to get into that topic here, we have quite enough threads to pull as it is.

I simply regard Chester Arthur as someone who got away with it prior to Barack Obama.

150 posted on 04/17/2013 7:40:25 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Nero Germanicus

And no one advertised this until after 2008.

Arthur hid it - deliberately.


320 posted on 05/23/2013 10:35:02 AM PDT by bluecat6 ("All non-denial denials. They doubt our ancestry, but they don't say the story isn't accurate. ")
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