Posted on 04/08/2013 11:40:49 AM PDT by traderrob6
I'm presently looking to buy a WWII German Luger. Having just moved to the state of Illinois, I checked into the specific laws pertaining to the purchase and ownership of firearms.
Of the many Draconian gun laws in this state there is one that is particularly onerous....Obtaining a FOID(Firearm Owners Identification) card.
The law that the legislature passed states that the card must be either issued or declined within 30 days of receipt of application. The FOID sight states within 30 days of your application fee of $10.00 being cashed. An immportant distinction being that it took them 2 weeks to cash my check.
Well it's been two months post check clearing and still nothing. They have an inquiry line to call but there is a recording that all service personel are busy and to call back. I've called a couple dozen times over several days and never any answer. They also provide an E-mail to enquire on your app which I sent over a week ago with no answer.After doing some research it appears that many others have also experienced this problem.
The ISP Firearms Enforcement Division is operating in direct violation of the laws it is pledged to uphold and enforce. I'm surprised the NRA hasn't filed suit as this is an egregious breach of the public trust and a blatant violation of the Second ammendment.
I don't know if these are intentional delays or just incompetence by the state. Either way it's against the law and needs to be addressed.
A permit in MA costs $100 and can take up to a year, depending where you live. Each COP gets to make up their own set of criteria regarding ‘suitability’.
It can always be worse.
I do have a Republican state Sen/Rep for what that’s worth.
Wow two years! I thought I had it bad. That’s really inexcusable.
I’m surprised the NRA hasn’t filed suit as this is an egregious breach of the public trust and a blatant violation of the Second ammendment.
***They’re not interested. They’re more interested lately in finding ways to compromise the 2nd amendment.
There’s a little more to the story than I posted, but the bottom line for me was I should’ve done much more follow up than I did, but once I connected with someone in the state police office, they were incredibly embarrassed by the mistake, apologized profusely and processed my application that day.
Have to say, the nice female officer I spoke with couldn’t have been nicer and more professional than she was. IMO she completely defused what would have otherwise been an unpleasant experience for the both of us, and I really appreciated that she helped and resolved the issue that day.
That’s why i say the state police aren’t the problem. They’re not the bad guys here, they just aren’t staffed to handle the load. That’s the politicians fault, not theirs.
Perhaps, but with the authority comes the responsibility
When it was pulled for profanity, I thought you must have said Chicago, Illinois, or something really foul. Like that.
[woops, I said it myself. don't tell anybody]
I don’t know if these are intentional delays or just incompetence
Pssst, I’ve heard Chicago politicians can fix almost any problem.
I think you might take a closer look at you contribution history. It could make a difference. You know what I mean?
Hmmmm, therein may lie the problem.
The first half of the legal situation is this:
18 US Code. U.S. Criminal Code, §ection 241
- Conspiracy against rights
If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same; or
If two or more persons go in disguise on the highway, or on the premises of another, with intent to prevent or hinder his free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege so secured—
They shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, they shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.
The Illinois Statute that applies is this, from the Illinois Compiled Statutes [ILCS]:
(720 ILCS 5/33-3) (from Ch. 38, par. 33-3)
Sec. 33-3. Official Misconduct.) A public officer or employee or special government agent commits misconduct when, in his official capacity or capacity as a special government agent, he commits any of the following acts:
(a) Intentionally or recklessly fails to perform any mandatory duty as required by law; or
(b) Knowingly performs an act which he knows he is forbidden by law to perform; or (c) With intent to obtain a personal advantage for himself or another, he performs an act in excess of his lawful authority; or
(d) Solicits or knowingly accepts for the performance of any act a fee or reward which he knows is not authorized by law.
A public officer or employee or special government agent convicted of violating any provision of this Section forfeits his office or employment or position as a special government agent. In addition, he commits a Class 3 felony.
For purposes of this Section, "special government agent" has the meaning ascribed to it in subsection (l) of Section 4A-101 of the Illinois Governmental Ethics Act. (Source: P.A. 94-338, eff. 1-1-06.)
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