"I hate Illinois Nazis!"
Posted on 04/08/2013 11:40:49 AM PDT by traderrob6
I'm presently looking to buy a WWII German Luger. Having just moved to the state of Illinois, I checked into the specific laws pertaining to the purchase and ownership of firearms.
Of the many Draconian gun laws in this state there is one that is particularly onerous....Obtaining a FOID(Firearm Owners Identification) card.
The law that the legislature passed states that the card must be either issued or declined within 30 days of receipt of application. The FOID sight states within 30 days of your application fee of $10.00 being cashed. An immportant distinction being that it took them 2 weeks to cash my check.
Well it's been two months post check clearing and still nothing. They have an inquiry line to call but there is a recording that all service personel are busy and to call back. I've called a couple dozen times over several days and never any answer. They also provide an E-mail to enquire on your app which I sent over a week ago with no answer.After doing some research it appears that many others have also experienced this problem.
The ISP Firearms Enforcement Division is operating in direct violation of the laws it is pledged to uphold and enforce. I'm surprised the NRA hasn't filed suit as this is an egregious breach of the public trust and a blatant violation of the Second ammendment.
I don't know if these are intentional delays or just incompetence by the state. Either way it's against the law and needs to be addressed.
Call your state reps office on the phone and ask them to check into it. You will have it within a week or so. Wife just went through this. I did the same last year. Call your state rep. If they are worth their salt you will see results.
"I hate Illinois Nazis!"
We’ll give that a try.
I don’t like even traveling through it but I have to a couple of times of year.
The state is currently overwhelmed by the enormous demand for FOID cards. I’m sure they didn’t anticipate this. You either have to wait or move I think.
Wait until you try to buy ammo in this state.
I have never found a state that didn’t have little petty tyrants violating gun laws just because they can. Until someone sues, nothing will happen.
A journalist could do dome good.
Several years ago A friend, who is an IL resident, and I went to a IL gunshop. I found a nice Marlin 36 at a good price and bought it. Since I was a MO resident I didn’t need a FOID card and only had to wait 24 hours to pick up the rifle. I still tease him about my special treatment.
It wasn’t archy...
I think someone else posted something about NJ, but not sure.
The entire country has wiped out all of the store shelves of standard capacity magazines for all popular handguns and rifles, a situation that is just now beginning to turn around.
The entire country has wiped out all of the store shelves of Modern Sporting Rifles and most popular full capacity handguns, a situnation that is just now beginning to turn around.
Illinois is under court order to develop some sort of concealed carry system, the last state in the union to do so.
You think that maybe, just maybe when you combine all the above facts, the overwhelming number of your fellow Illinois citizens that have applied for their first FOID card may have caused the system to be backed up just a tad?
I moved FROM Illinois, TO Georgia. NOTHING could EVER get me back there. Not a woman, not a fortune, NOTHING. There is nothing in Illinois that would cause me to ever tread in that state ever again.
Ditto my home state, New York, with one caveat: I could be convinced to go visit relatives, but I would want to spend as little money as possible while doing so, in order to deprive Little Russia of tax money to implement their Soviet agenda.
That looks like about one magazine’s worth of scum right there.
They pull this CRAP in New Jersey also. By law you are to get your FID card or pistol purchase permit in 30 days. The real time is usually a “minimum” of three months.They then give you a song and dance that there is only one person in Trenton who handles all the paperwork.
Another ploy is to wait three weeks and then tell you that your fingerprints can’t be read so you have to do it all over again.
This satisfy you now Mr. Moderator.
It was me but the moderator didn’t like the $hit word.
Yea, go out and break a law and see if the excuse of being overworked or overwhelmed gets you a free pass.
Sorry to hear you have to live in IL. Try calling the Attorney General’s office? Just my only thought...
Nope, think I’ll try going the State rep/Senator route.
And what does Illinois law say is the penalty for violating this 30 day rule?
There is no stated penalty for the state failing to comply. The only penalty is for you to bring suit against the state and prevail in court.
Ahhh, that makes sense. One thing you might try. Call the local gun stores / pawn shops and leave your contact information so that they can pass on to other disgruntled citizens. I would assume that if you had several individuals contacting the NRA they would be more inclined to listen.
I live in IL, and can speak to this issue directly.
At issue is the lack of funding for the State Police office that is responsible to run the background check and either issue or deny the permit in 30 days.
One tactic has been to delay cashing checks, as you experienced. This is obviously to buy time in processing your foid application. This tactic has been failing for over two years now.
The State Police are now backed up 90 to 120 days in processing applications. Don’t complain to your Democrat state rep, this is part of their plan to delay new gun owners as long as they can.
Don’t complain to the State Police either, they’ll just refer you to your state representative (who btw doesn’t care.)
In my case, I fought for two years to get my foid card. It sat in an unprocessed pile that long until I finally got through to the State Police and complained long enough (to an understanding, and quite helpful officer I might add) to have my application located and processed. Ten days later, I had my foid.
My brother’s application took 104 days from the time they cashed his check. They held his check for almost 30 days, making the total wait 134 days. He got his FOID three weeks ago.
All I can say is hang in there. I agree, a foid is a barrier, however that’s what it takes in this socialist shithole of a state. The State Police are processing as fast as they can, I think. The issue is they aren’t funded to the level required to process applications in the time specified by law. That’s our state reps fault, and they’re doing it deliberately.
One last thing: do NOT buy weapons in Illinois. Buy them in Wisconsin or Indiana. You’ll have to wait the required time to pick up a firearm from an out of state dealer, but IL won’t have a record of the purchase. Illinois is silently creating a firearms owner database. Don’t purchase guns in this state. I’d suggest mail ordering your ammo too. Yep, they’re tracking ammo purchases too.
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