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Scientist Predicts 60% Market Collapse
moneynews ^ | 3/13/2013 | moneynews

Posted on 03/25/2013 9:49:52 AM PDT by Signalman

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1 posted on 03/25/2013 9:49:52 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: Signalman

Only 60%?


2 posted on 03/25/2013 9:56:18 AM PDT by meatloaf (Support Senate S 1863 & House Bill 1380 to eliminate oil slavery.)
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To: Signalman

He’s not Mayan is he?


3 posted on 03/25/2013 9:57:42 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: meatloaf

Proctor and Gamble has a P/E under 19, Ford under 10, meaning yeilds of greater than 5% and 10% respectively. (P&G was under 10 P/E a few years ago.) People are not going to stop buying soap, and will probably want pickup trucks and SUVs for the foreseeable future.

I don’t care what you swami sees in his crystal ball.


4 posted on 03/25/2013 10:01:43 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (What word begins with "O" and ends in economic collapse?)
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To: blam

ping


5 posted on 03/25/2013 10:02:14 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

So the sales figures for Ford and other manufacturers has been stable the last 10 years?


6 posted on 03/25/2013 10:03:30 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Signalman

When that happens buy and when you make a fair profit sell.


7 posted on 03/25/2013 10:03:33 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Signalman

Investors are comforted by there being no other place to invest money. They’re thinking this is a zero sum game. It is not. When the stock market collapses, the value will simply disappear. This guy could easily be correct.


8 posted on 03/25/2013 10:05:36 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: Signalman
Oh that won't happen...

They will just prop it up again with fiat monies...

Then it will collapse by 70% next time...

Unless they prop it up again....

Then it will collapse by 80% next time...

Unless they prop it up again....

Then it will collapse by 90% next time...

Unless they prop it up again....

Then it will collapse by 95% next time...

Unless they prop it up again....


9 posted on 03/25/2013 10:13:56 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: driftdiver
No, nothing is "stable". Ford will go out of business one day, as will P&G.

Millbury Savings Bank in 1932.

Millbury Savings Bank in 2013. still doing business under the same name in the same location, only now they have drive up teller and ATM windows. The World may not end tomorrow.


10 posted on 03/25/2013 10:18:37 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (What word begins with "O" and ends in economic collapse?)
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Proctor and Gamble has a P/E under 19, Ford under 10, meaning yields of greater than 5% and 10% respectively.

According to www.bigcharts.com, Proctor and Gamble and Ford both have yields around 3%.

11 posted on 03/25/2013 10:18:37 AM PDT by Leaning Right
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Proctor and Gamble has a P/E under 19, Ford under 10, meaning yeilds of greater than 5% and 10% respectively. (P&G was under 10 P/E a few years ago.) People are not going to stop buying soap, and will probably want pickup trucks and SUVs for the foreseeable future.

That just means these companies aren't going to go bankrupt. It doesn't mean their P/E's can't end up well below 5 in a big downturn.

12 posted on 03/25/2013 10:21:37 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: Signalman

Technically, it’s not a “triple top” until it breaks below the lowest valley.


13 posted on 03/25/2013 10:22:20 AM PDT by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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To: driftdiver
AYE.

Prepare now.

14 posted on 03/25/2013 10:22:31 AM PDT by blam
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To: Leaning Right

I think that’s divends, not ROI. Management reinvests some of the profit. Some of the investment is paying down debt (almost certainly true in the case of Ford.)

Of course, vastly profitable Digital Equipment Corporation (DEC) went for about 30 years without paying dividends, then paid a couple of paltry dividends before is was sold off to Compaq at a fraction of its market high, later acquired by HP.

People did stop wanting VAXs and PDPs and VMS, and Ken Olson wasn’t ready to adapt and change.


15 posted on 03/25/2013 10:23:46 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (What word begins with "O" and ends in economic collapse?)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

The list of banks which have ceased to do business is quite long. Perhaps a bad example on your part.

http://www.fdic.gov/bank/individual/failed/banklist.html


16 posted on 03/25/2013 10:28:09 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Zombies.


17 posted on 03/25/2013 10:28:46 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("AP" clearly stands for American Pravda. Our news media has become completely and proudly Soviet.)
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To: driftdiver

Somebody posted that picture of Millbury Savings on a thread about Cyprus. I find it amusing that the poster child for bank instability is doing fine.

I don’t think anyone has ever lose a nickle in an FDIC insured account.


18 posted on 03/25/2013 10:31:53 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (What word begins with "O" and ends in economic collapse?)
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To: Lazamataz
Zombies.

Bull$hi|.

P&G is a well run, profitable company, making excellent products that people all over the world want at reasonable prices, paying good wages and returning value to its shareholders. I agree, Obama could croak it, given enough time and power. History is littered with the corpses of geese that laid golden eggs. When that happens, there will be no safe havens. In the meantime, I'll take 5% plus growth over treasuries which will be wiped out by inflation.

19 posted on 03/25/2013 10:37:05 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (What word begins with "O" and ends in economic collapse?)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Who provides FDIC insurance for bank accounts? The Federal Government.

Who is taking the money in Cyprus? Their Federal Government.

Do you honestly think Pelosi, Obama, or Reid would hesitate to do something similar?


20 posted on 03/25/2013 10:37:10 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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