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To: Kevmo

Right. My point. If your instruments are sensitive enough, they may very well be “measuring” things that aren’t really there.

I will be happy to believe in LENR when someone drives a car across the country or fuels a power plant with one.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. But I’m more than willing to be convinced if that evidence is supplied.


6 posted on 03/14/2013 1:52:33 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

I will be happy to believe in LENR when someone drives a car across the country or fuels a power plant with one.
***Raising the bar on cold fusion while lowering the bar on hot fusion. To date, cold fusion experiments have generated hundreds of MJoules over several months while the greatest Tokomak has operated for a few seconds and generated 6MJoules. Where is my hot fusion powered car?

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
***The Anomalous Heat Effect has been replicated more than 14,000 times. It is no longer an extraordinary claim. Admittedly, it is difficult to reproduce, but it has been replicated.

But I’m more than willing to be convinced if that evidence is supplied.
***Read Baudette’s book. Read the papers at lenr-canr.org

Amazon.com: Excess Heat: Why Cold Fusion Research Prevailed ...

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Excess Heat: Why Cold Fusion Research Prevailed (2nd Edition) [Charles G. ... Mr. Baudette has done a excellent job of presenting the fact and history of this ...

http://lenr-canr.org/

Familiarize yourself with the evidence


10 posted on 03/14/2013 2:07:44 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Sherman Logan

Right. Measuring something is not any kind of definitive evidence. Scientists make measurement errors all the time. If it can’t be demonstrated, replicated, and eventually put into practical use, it might as well be fairy dust we are talking about.


11 posted on 03/14/2013 2:12:39 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Sherman Logan
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."

No, actually they don't. The same criteria apply to all science phenomena. This phrase originated among the career skeptics to put down science-based research into paranormal phenomena. It has zip to do with legitimate science.

"But I’m more than willing to be convinced if that evidence is supplied.

One well-done experiment (or series of experiments) and one replication of those experiments at a different lab are all that is necessary.

35 posted on 03/14/2013 7:01:39 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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