Thanks. I’ll stop attempting to dig them up. They are in a bed in front of a hedge of roses that I planted two years ago. They don’t look bad when they grow which is why I haven’t obsessed (plus they are in the back yard where no one else can see).
One thing I’ve been thinking if is to intermingle edible plants along with my normal decorative ones. This would fit in with that.
IE not a traditional garden but a garden that is visually appealing in my neighborhood where the HOA is pretty strict.
Maybe that can be a topic for another day.
I found that a double row of marigolds in front of the asparagus does double duty. The thick greenery of the asparagus is a nice backdrop for the colors of the marigolds plus the marigolds repel many kinds of bugs. Even in a front yard you can have a patch of asparagus in a corner lets say with a thick mat of marigolds planted in front of them is actually rather nice looking.