[mosaicwolf]

The problem is lies have become the norm. Nobody cares about honor anymore in the political class or the news media. This fact alone leads me to believe the United States of America as I have known it is DEAD. The slow death started under the Clintons and has accelerated under Obama and the Collectivists.

[Astronaut]

Yes, the Republic is dead. Most people just don’t know it. It did start under the Clintons. But don’t leave out Bush. Without the massive fraud that was 9/11, we wouldn’t have the Patriot Act and ensuing destruction of our civil liberties. We wouldn’t be fighting endless wars that have bankrupted us. I believed President Bush back in the day, but my eyes are open now. Clinton. Bush. Obama. All pawns of the real powers that be. The NWO and corporate interests.