That's a classic liberal debating tactic: changing the subject. We were not discussing the efficacy of pro-life women, but their ethics. You said we would "sacrifice the baby" rather than give up a monopoly on evading parenthood, every time. I've tried to give you a chance to explain what you mean so that everyone on Free Republic doesn't draw the conclusion that you really believe that for political reasons we pro-life women are deliberately letting children die. So far you have failed to clarify this absolutely filthy accusation. Would you like to try again, with specific and clear examples?
I would also dispute that our efforts have had no effect. More and more Americans are coming to realize that abortion is wrong, that it kills a living person. But since you don't like the results of our efforts to write, speak, counsel, lobby, show sonograms, give hands-on help, and adopt, what would you propose? What are your no doubt wonderful solutions to the problem?
It's not changing the subject: it's demonstrating all these things you take such great pride in are for your own edification, not furthering the ostensible "cause."
We were not discussing the efficacy of pro-life women, but their ethics.
Oh really? How many years of unbroken failure does it take before one may safely deduce "another agenda?"
Oh sure, pro-life women would like abortion to go away, but only so long as "emotional soup-kitchens," are the only means. Binding themselves to a real sacrifice of their choices isn't even though of, let alone discussed.
I would also dispute that our efforts have had no effect.
You wanted to discuss liberal debate tactics? "No effect" is an absurd claim, and one I never made. So answer my charge, not what you wish I had charged.
Abortion is now buried on this culture like a tick. Saving a handful of babies through soup-kitchen tactics does nothing in the big picture but make the "savior" feel better about themselves.
More and more Americans are coming to realize that abortion is wrong, that it kills a living person.
And polls have shown those same people believe they should still have a right to abortion, anyway.
So much for changing hearts.....
What are your no doubt wonderful solutions to the problem?
Easy, fight fire with fire. Use the pro-choice argument against the pro-choice lobby.
Give the same "choice" to men.