Posted on 01/31/2013 6:57:28 PM PST by Morgana
The only medicine which has ever bothered me is aspirin and Darvon. When I was in college the athletic trainer gave me darvon for shin splints. The next night I was lying in bed and I felt my heart sort of racing then slowing down etc.
I told the trainer the next day and he said to quit taking it which I did. Of course it could have been something else.
Now aspirin really hurts my stomach. After several years I thought maybe I was wrong and took a single 325mg tablet and for two days my stomach hurt. None of the others which are suppose to have possible reactions ever bother me at all.
From The Guardian:
How true is it that Israel deceitfully gave Ethiopian Jews birth control injections?
By Brendan O’NeillWorldLast updated: January 31st, 2013
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Ethiopian Jewish leaders recite prayers during the Sigd festival in Jerusalem. (Photo: AFP)
When it was reported earlier this week that Israeli officials had been giving birth control to arriving Ethiopian Jews “without their consent”, the international media had a field day. Twitter lapped it up, too. Here was hard evidence, observers said, of Israeli racism. Some even used the word “sterilisation” and haughtily reminded Israelis that the Holocaust, that thing they go on about all the time, also started with the sterilisation of “undesirables”. Echoing Lib Dem MP David Ward’s recent chastisement of “the Jews” for failing to learn anything from their experiences during the Holocaust, bloggers and observers accused Israel’s sterilisers of repeating the very history that Israel’s founders sought to escape from.
But how true is it that Israel “forced” or “coerced” Ethiopian Jews into taking birth control, without even telling them it was birth control? An interesting piece in Haaretz says it isn’t very true, and “the more [this] story is repeated, the more warped and distorted it becomes”. Haaretz says it is certainly the case, as revealed in an Israeli TV documentary in December, that Israel’s immigration authorities are guilty of “insensitivity” and “cultural condescension” towards Ethiopian Jews, and perhaps a “certain level of racism”. The article says these African Jews were indeed given Depo-Provera, a birth-control injection that lasts for three months, both in Addis Ababa, as they waited to go to Israel, and also in the absorption centres they first stayed in upon arrival in Israel. But it is not the case or it certainly has not been proven by anyone that they were given these injections deceitfully, without their consent, being misled into believing they were just inoculations.
Haaretz says the Ethiopian women were “coaxed” or “strongly convinced” to have the Depo-Provera shot, not forced. The idea that they were given it without their knowledge springs from the testimony of a few women who simply said “they weren’t aware the shots were birth control”; that could be down to these individual women’s lack of understanding or confusion, says Haaretz, since “the vast majority of the Ethiopian women who received Depo-Provera were aware it was birth control and received it willingly”.
As for the claims that Israel is “sterilising” immigrants it doesn’t like very much, Haaretz points out that, by definition, an injection whose birth-controlling power lasts only three months is not sterilisation. It also points out that some Ethiopian women continued voluntarily to receive Depo-Provera even once they were settled in Israel, because they “preferred being injected at a clinic rather than having to take pills daily in the presence of other family members who might disapprove of that decision”. That is, the injections became culturally convenient for some Ethiopian women in Israel. Haaretz says it is “insulting to these women’s intelligence” to suggest they would continue travelling to a clinic in Israel in order to stand in line to be “sterilised”, and in truth the drop in the Ethiopian birth rate in Israel that observers fretted over this week is far more likely “attributable to access to birth control that these women wanted”.
None of this nuance and very little of the detail of the original Israeli TV exposé made it into the international coverage this week, where instead the story was treated as “some kind of villainous genocidal plot of sterilisation aimed at ethnic and racial cleansing”, says Haaretz. Yes, Israeli officials screwed up in their treatment of these Ethiopian women; no woman should ever feel pressured, even slightly, into taking birth control, especially by those who hold the key to her ability to start a new life. (This is something that all those respectable, Western, condom-waving NGOs in Africa should also bear in mind.) But the mistreatment of this story, the exaggeration of it, the warped repeating of it by observers and tweeters around the world, reveals something ugly too: a thirst for treating Israel as a uniquely racist, wicked, barbaric outpost. When it comes to pointing a big, white Western finger at Israel and accusing it of carrying out the kind crimes of racism and colonialism that the rest of us grew out of years ago a favoured pastime of so many liberal campaigners today it seems facts count for little.
Morgana, AGP (another great post).
New world order, woo-hoo !
It has a number of moving parts.
Us “little people” can’t see some of them.
How many Americans know that an unclassified National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) was delivered to a U.S. President which specified that the spread of AIDS worldwide was a national security threat to the United States ? How many people understand the significance of an NIE ?
Not many of us “little people” can understand what the goals is. How does providing birth control, contraception - or even disease prevention tie in with new world order plans ?
We don’t know.
We are like mice in a lab. The mice do not know why things are done to them. The mice can not read. The mice can not analyze.
I must obey The Guardian.
It contains the commands of Chatham House.
Those words must be obeyed.
The Guardian is to be believed as much as The New York Times is to be believed.
There is a difference between abortion and putting welfare queens on birth control.
I can’t prevent you from jumping to conclusions, but I can try to make you aware that you are tarring the entire State of Israel based on a headline that does not match the facts in the story, and you ridicule an article that does.
The story seems to be that for years the Joint Distribution Committee (JDC, a Jewish philanthropy that has been helping Ethiopian Jews to Israel, has been administering depo-previra to Fulash Mura women en route to Israel from Ethiopia. These are people who are baly discriminated against in Ethiopia and they represent the only time in recorded history in which oppressed black Africans have been rescued from that continent to live as free people elsewhere.
As part of the healthcare administered to the immigrants the JDC administers a temporary (3-month) contraceptive. The JDC maintains that it is voluntary and administered after it is explained (informed consent) and at least a few women over a period of years have said that they didn’t understand that it was a contraception or were made to feel that it was a necessary condition to their being permitted to immigrate to Israel. Apparently depo-previra is widely used bgy welfare organizations that administer aid to African people in that area, and perhaps the JDC people learned it from the other aid workers.
I don’t like the idea that they may have administered depo-previra without fully explaining its effects or that they coerced people to take it, but it is a 3-month contraceptive that is generally recognized as safe and with no lasting effects either on the woman’s ability to give birth or on any other aspects of her health that I could find. This is NOT Margaret Sanger-type forced sterilization.
In any case, as soon as an Israeli television program highlighted the practice in December the JDC spokespeople issued a denial of coercion/inadequate explanation.
Now the Israeli government has said that it wants to discontinue prescriptions of depo-previra to Ethiopian immigrant women in Israel pending the results of an investigation, and for its own reasons this news service has chosen to headline the article with a libel that the Israeli government has admitted to guilt. It looks to me that they don’t want to administer a drug to anyone without their consent and they are right to place these prescriptions on hold, even though it will cause hardship to those women who will find their own prescriptions unable to be renewed.
I am having a difficult time imputing innocent motives to the headline writer who took the practices of the JDC, the allegations of coercion, and the Israeli government’s efforts to stop any coercion that may be happening, and wrote a headline claiming that Israel’s government has admitted guilt.
And for those of you who compare this to forced sterilization, you should read before you write.
Huh? That's not an "abortion". And DepoProvera is not "dangerous". LifeNews jumps the shark?
No denying it. I'm stunned.
Don't you recall the case of the retarded woman who was forcibly sterilized because the judge ruled “three generations of imbeciles is enough”?
How come nobody objected when whitey did the same thing in African villages?
“whitey” = the World Health Organization and International Planned Parenthood
This was before they decided it was cheaper to promote anal sex as birth control.
Anybody still wonder where the AIDS epidemic in Africa came from?
Your Darvon story triggered some memories from 30 years ago.
I had a painful gall bladder attack (but I did not know at the time it was gall bladder) and my wife drove me to the emergency room. They gave me a shot of Demerol. The pain got better quickly. My wife was watching the heart monitor hooked up to me and my pulse kept dropping...when it got to under 50, she dragged the nurse in my room and asked her if this needed attention. The nurse immediately gave me shot of anti-dote for Demerol and my pulse got back to normal.
To make long story short, the Demerol would have killed me right there if my wife was not watching. Now every time I have to fill out a medical history, I list Demerol as a no-no.
Using drugs; experimental or ‘otherwise’ on unsuspecting populations; not new; and even ‘our’ Country guilty of doing same. Think they should have been told what they were getting; and leave decision to enter Israel - or not; based on their decision to take it; or not.
Not a bad idea; perhaps; for those who continue to ‘challenge’ the welfare system by way of having ‘more’. ..and more children. And maybe not a bad idea; for those ‘newbies’; who have multiple wives; children; and expect ‘America’ to pay for them - all. Their choice. . .
Kind of like 'Christians' have done?
So; okay; thought this might at least; be the case; that this population was not by and large; coerced without forewarning/knowledge of what 'choice' they had.
Unlike, some of the 'experiments' that have taken unsuspecting citizens here 'at home'. . .
Depo-Provera works by preventing conception - it is not an abortifacient.
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