To: Durus
Do you think it would be hard to kill superman? His power levels are off the chart but his weakness is also. How about shooting him with a kryptonite bullet? Bang! Dead alien superhero. Has no one ever thought of this? Superman doesn't even bother to dodge bullets. A 12 year old with a zip gun could kill him. Too afraid to shoot superman? (and I can understand that) How about a kryptonite frag grenade? Krypton gas? Let's face it for all his daunting powers he is a soft target.
Bullets make noise. Between insanely fast relexes and supervision Superman could easily determine that this was no ordinary bullet, and (assuming heat vision couldn't melt it), fly out of harms way, or use super breath to change its path. That's why the preferred method has also been to entice Superman and distract him with a lead lined box. (K-rays don't penetrate lead. Heck, there was one comic where Superman tricked Luthor into thinking he won (with help of a man-made Hebrew mythology Golem) by vibrating the entire civilization into another dimension or something (with Len Wein, anything is possible). Maybe the zip gun in the hands of an innocent looking 10 year old at skin contact (or Mr. Mxyzptlk, who should be able to kill Superman at will, if it wouldn't rob him of fun,but Mxyxptlk is arbitrarily powerful). The Kryptonite gas thing has been done. Do note that Kryptonite acts pretty slowly, and apparently doesn't take away all of Superman's invulnerability, otherwise, someone would have done the Kryptonite box followed by a regular lead bullet. As it is, Lois Lane, a Superman robot, a member of the Justice League, a one-time regular human character, or even another arch-foe shows up in time to save the day. I think the grenade idea has merit if you use human bait to disguise the hidden payload.
Do note that earth-bound Kryptonite was turn to regular rock in Superman #233 (1971), and was out of the picture for years before it had to be returned.
A well-trained sorcerer could do him in if these types could avoid drawing attentionto themselves (simply attend one of the numerous charity events where Superman bends steel girders or something).
As far as Wolverine is concerned, Supes can just dust off his Phantom Zone Ray, and send ol' Wolverine into a netherworld with the likes of Jax-Ur, kru-El and General Zod, who are so vicious, they vaporized a female cohort from the zone at the first opportunity even though she was a knockout (and perfectly resembled BOTH Supergirl AND Lena Thorul). he's been known to put folks in prisons that would make them WISH they were dead. Luthor is grandfathered in to avoid such treatment.
A good fantasy doesn't need to have foes of equal power, the good guy doesn't have to struggle and barely beat the bad guy, evil doesn't need to be portrayed as omniscient and Omnipotent while good is portrayed as weak but manages to win through incredibly unlikely good fortune.
Besides good fortune (which usually saves the day for the likes of Barney Fife types), with the DC heroes, planning ahead and making what should be a simple workaround is replaced with a ridiculously complex formula, often pretending a good guy goes bad, or that someone close to the hero has died. This stems from the DC approach of making the covers first and and the story after. Or the timely arrival of a third party (Snapper Carr, Jimmy Olsen, etc.), but that could fall under incredibly good fortune.
I would say that Captain Marvel should give Superman a good fight (despite having mainly the base powers), because his power comes from magic/mysticism. Jonn Jonnz could also do well if he is in an oxygen free environment (no fire), loaded with Kryptonite, and can throw the first punch.
14 posted on
01/29/2013 1:21:45 PM PST by
Dr. Sivana
("C'est la vie" say the old folks, it goes to show you never can tell. -- Chuck Berry)
To: Dr. Sivana
Bullets make noise. Between insanely fast relexes and supervision Superman could easily determine that this was no ordinary bullet, and (assuming heat vision couldn't melt it), fly out of harms way, or use super breath to change its path.
Sure bullets make noise but a piece of kryptonite encased in a normal lead bullet doesn't make a strange noise or act in anyway like an abnormal bullet. How many time has superman let bullets bounce off of him? He seems to take great pleasure in it for some odd reason. As an aside could you even be charged for shooting superman with a normal bullet?
I was never suggesting a Superman vs. Wolverine fight but but if I had to choose a Nemesis I would choose Superman. Sure if he ever got me alone without Kryptonite he could kill me easily, but he wouldn't. He would probably give me a patronizing look and a stern talking too while either waiting for the police to show up or flying me to them. Wolverine...not so much.
17 posted on
01/29/2013 1:54:52 PM PST by
Durus
(You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
To: Dr. Sivana
A kryptonite sniper bullet traveling faster than the speed of sound.
21 posted on
01/29/2013 4:58:53 PM PST by
allmendream
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