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To: BlackElk
Good grief. You actually think that Paterno owed no one a second look or an inquiry, that he was entirely innocent because he made a single report one time, that he has no culpability in letting this go while a dozen young boys were savaged.......

This is not like overlooking some misdemeanor behavior on a player, or someone who is late to practice, or someone who didn't show up for a bed check. This is serious, life changing stuff that was going on, life changing stuff that was disgusting, and as vile as it gets. I really don't enjoy saying this, but anyone who looks at it that way, knowing that Paterno had the control he did, knowing that Paterno had information on his ex defensive coach that was damning, then hearing about the incident, then never following up, and you still think he was entirely innocent in this matter has drunk the kool aid big time. Really big time.....

I'm not defending Spanier or the rest, but give us a break, you sound like an old fool who has a crush on a Hollywood idol.

50 posted on 01/30/2013 9:48:53 PM PST by Lakeshark (!)
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To: Lakeshark
If I am an old fool (and I certainly am not as young as once I was), I am an old fool in love with DUE PROCESS OF LAW. It is in every copy of our constitution, even yours.

See #52.

Paterno did what he was required to do and did not do what the university required him not to do. He honored the rule of law and the rules of his employment contract. He did not go on a personal crusade without adequate evidence as you apparently would have preferred. You were disappointed. Toooooo bad! Welcome to the wonderful world of academia and its carefully constructed Fantasyland.

The courts can neither indict nor convict nor criminally punish the dead. If you REALLY care so much about the child raping done by Sandusky, then, now that he is safely behind bars functionally forever (too bad he could not be executed), it is time to turn your attention to the living perps or those who may have been perps (kiddie rapers and cover up artists alike, university officials, Second Mile Foundation, etc., and particularly Spanier).

As to Paterno's innocence, he is and was innicent until PROVEN GUILTY BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT. Again, that is well-settled law in all 50 states. He is dead and it is too late. Further, you purport to know just what it was that Paterno "knew." Neither you nor I nor anyone else here "know" any such thing as what Paterno KNEW. Even if Paterno SAID he knew, and even if he were not dead, you would have to get that testimony by the hearer into evidence under a valid hearsay exception. Do you have some kind of machine that is a psychic detector of what Paterno "knew?" I have never heard of such a device being allowed into testimony or to testify.

The "life changing stuff" WAS disgusting and as vile as it gets. That was the stuff that Sandusky DID to the kids according to the jury that rendered the verdict AFTER he received due process of law and legal representation, etc. The trial court just yesterday rejected defense motions to set aside the verdict on a defense claim of inadequate time to prepare his defense before the trial. Your unsupported planted axioms after "as vile as it gets" don't make a shred of difference. They are not evidence of anything but of your passions and temper tantrum.

I note that you have a remarkable reluctance to go after Spanier and the other administrators at Penn State. You too would only be satisfied by the celebrity scalp offered to you by Spanier and the trustees and the administrators who have been indicted. And you think I drink the kool aid big time??? Don't go to law school. You have no future in the legal profession and little capacity for discernment.

54 posted on 01/30/2013 11:04:03 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em, Danno)
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