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Alinsky vs. Sun Tzu: How ancient strategy can be used against the Liberal Left.
Free Republic ^ | September 19, 2009 | Publius772000

Posted on 01/21/2013 10:12:36 AM PST by LucyT

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To: miele man

Here are a couple that I use.

“Understand yourself and understand your opponents, and in one hundred battles, you will not be defeated.”

“The battle is won or lost before the first arrow is fired.”


21 posted on 01/21/2013 11:55:53 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: miele man

http://classics.mit.edu/Tzu/artwar.html

Here you go. It is quite a long read.


22 posted on 01/21/2013 11:59:53 AM PST by bergmeid (I told you so - now pass the ammo.)
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To: miele man

“The Art of War” is actually quite short, but it is hard to find a translation which does not include voluminous commentary.


23 posted on 01/21/2013 12:17:17 PM PST by ctdonath2 (End of debate. Your move.)
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24 posted on 01/21/2013 12:24:21 PM PST by ctdonath2 (End of debate. Your move.)
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To: blueunicorn6
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.


25 posted on 01/21/2013 12:26:44 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: ctdonath2; All
http://suntzusaid.com/
26 posted on 01/21/2013 12:29:06 PM PST by fattigermaster
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To: All

It’s not really a long read as I recall, having read it several years ago.

Every GOP candidate should read it and become familiar with it, as well as Alinsky’s rules as one of the main tenants of the Art of War is to know your enemy and their tactics.

Example: Obama will give a speech where he will ask a rhetorical question and then answer it with two false choices, with the most reasonable answer supporting his argument.

This tactic is used over and over, yet the GOP never seems to catch on to this easily defeatable tactic.


27 posted on 01/21/2013 2:05:41 PM PST by Rodney Dangerfield ("Don't ya just hate waiting in line at the Post Office? - Just wait until ObamaCare is implemented.")
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To: LucyT

Dallas - “Real power is something you take!”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGdfPtW56fo


28 posted on 01/21/2013 2:27:04 PM PST by LZ_Bayonet ( I AM THE TEA PARTY LEADER !)
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To: cripplecreek

Problem is, there are no capitalist governments willing to pay millions of we conservatives to do this. Unlike the commies.

We attempt to repel the enemy for free. Volunteer armies only work when total devastation of the enemy is not only OK but the goal.

Sun Tzu couldn’t imagine the kind of battlefield we face now.


29 posted on 01/21/2013 2:46:04 PM PST by txhurl
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To: txhurl

There are a lot of things we can do on our own.

Planting the seeds of dissent is a personal favorite. I leave comments after Detroit news articles all the time. When Detroiters are complaining about the lack of police, I point to Ann Arbor where the liberals couldn’t decide to build a fountain or pay more firemen. I suggest that its kinda funny how Ann Arbor liberals have all this excess money and concern for the poor, yet aren’t real forthcoming with the cash.

I take special pleasure in pointing out that “Obama didn’t bring no bacon” on his last trip to Detroit. Instead he came to Michigan to try to protect his union friends and utterly failed PLUS ignoring the call for bacon.

Play their own games back against them.


30 posted on 01/21/2013 3:04:05 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

I’m jaded, but the soap and ballot box solutions have been stolen from us in broad daylight. So....


31 posted on 01/21/2013 3:27:29 PM PST by txhurl
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To: SENTINEL
Hillary Clinton's senior thesis was on the Alinsky model of fighting.

-PJ

32 posted on 01/21/2013 3:32:56 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Rodney Dangerfield
Example: Obama will give a speech where he will ask a rhetorical question and then answer it with two false choices, with the most reasonable answer supporting his argument.

He uses strawmen and the GOP should be quick to point them out and offer their own real answer.
33 posted on 01/21/2013 3:35:02 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt; miele man

Check this out:

http://classics.mit.edu/Tzu/artwar.html


34 posted on 01/21/2013 7:52:12 PM PST by LucyT (In the 20th century 200 million people were killed by their own governments.)
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To: LucyT

Machiavelli says: ‘Yo what am I chopped liver here?’


35 posted on 01/21/2013 8:30:35 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! [You can vote Democrat when you're dead]...)
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sfl


36 posted on 01/22/2013 5:48:56 AM PST by phockthis (http://www.supremelaw.org/fedzone11/index.htm ...)
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