Posted on 01/21/2013 6:58:21 AM PST by SeekAndFind
I’ve come to believe in the here after,many times I go into a room and ask muself what am I here after,
Never read the book. However, if the good doctor isn’t following Christ, I’d beware of anything in the book - angles of light and all that stuff.
And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead. Luke 16:31
Seeing as how Satan, undoubtedly the greatest lawyer that ever existed, has lost his case, I wouldn't put too much hope in that.
Exactly. Some female figure supposedly appeared to him and told him there was nothing he could have done wrong-—i.e., no such thing as sin. That invalidates the whole book as far as I’m concerned.
Seeing as how Satan, undoubtedly the greatest lawyer that ever existed, has lost his case, I wouldn't put too much hope in that.
“Heaven is for Real” by Todd Burpo is the real deal. His little boy dies for few minutes,comes back, and over the course of a few years explains what happened to him. Nobody more honest than a 5 year old. The dad is a minister. Excellent read.
Satan appears as an angel of light. Trust only the Bible and the promises of Jesus.
Four-year-old Jeremy Werdt says he went to heaven during emergency spleen surgery, and his testimony of seeing Jesus and deceased relatives thrilled his Christian family and landed him a book contract....“To have Jeremy back and talking about this amazing experience of being with the Lord was the most wonderful day of our lives,” says his mother, Brenda. “He named all the relatives he’d seen and we just sat there crying. Then, after a while, we realized he hadn’t said anything about my mom, Grandma Spencer....”
....“Every time we asked he just shrugged his shoulders and said, ‘Nope. Not there,’” says Brenda. “We suggested maybe he didn’t recognize her because she looked younger in heaven. He smiled and said, ‘Mom, you recognize everyone in heaven. Grandma wasn’t around.’”
-- from the thread ‘Grandma not in heaven’ boy reports
I agree -- I very much enjoyed that book, and was filled with joy at the possibilities it set out.
It would also be difficult to convince a fetus that ‘this’ world exists but then the water breaks and........SURPISE!
That said, what Dr. Alexander's experience proves is principally that the relationship between consciousness and large-scale, measurable brain function is not so simple as materialists would have us believe. As such it is both an important contribution to theistic apologetics in opposition to the chorus of "new atheists" and an interesting bit of data for the increasingly applied subject of philosophy of mind.
-- from the thread ‘Grandma not in heaven’ boy reports
Considering that the doctor was an atheist scientist before this event, I’d say it was a good step in the right direction if he accepts that there is a heaven and God. He can correct his misinterpretations and come to know Christ with the passage of time. At least this makes him receptive, where before he was not.
I’d have to say that simply accepting the idea of the afterlife is not enough. Further, the idea of universal grace negates the preciousness of real grace and is certain to do far more damage by reinforcing heretical ideas the infest not only this age but also too much of the [c]hurch. In short, his account does little more than present another religious view other than that of Scripture.
Of course, he, like anyone else, is subject to the working of the Holy Spirit and he has a chance.
That female figure turned out to be a sister he had never met or seen, who was born to his natural birth mother (he was adopted) and died young, and whom he had no knowledge of until he went searching for his birth family after his NDE
when he saw a picture of his dead birth sister he recognized her as the girl who met him in heaven
things that make you go hmmm
Perhaps a tantalizing glimpse, but we must take the reality of heaven on faith.
Of course accepting the idea of an afterlife is not enough, and I agree absolutely the idea of universal grace negates the supreme value of real grace. But sometimes you have to get a toe in the door with adamant atheists. Just admitting that there’s something else out there opens them to the subsequent actions of the Holy Spirit, and then to an acceptance of divine truth via the doctrines of the Church. I have seen this happen.
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