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To: chuckles
Very good, very thoughtful post.

Thank you.

And you are correct, if we truly want to be free, we MUST have God at our core. Unfortunately the world now says to believe in God is tantamount to slavery and oppression, and that you're taking away their rights. My daughter's rant is proof of that. She has all the liberal talking points down pat.

We have "blessed hope" to look forward to, but things will certainly get worse before that happens. I pray we're all strong enough to endure until that time.

God bless you sir!

52 posted on 01/18/2013 9:56:06 AM PST by ducttape45
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To: ducttape45
Upon re reading your post, I would drop the argument with the daughter in law about guns. I would, instead, talk to her about her salvation. If she disagrees with what you said, then she most likely is still in rebellion to God. You MUST be born again to understand Spiritual things. If she hasn't repented of her sin, she will never understand any argument from the Bible. Many of these people believe that people are basically good and reject that there are "none good, no not one." They don't think there is a chance that they won't go to Heaven because they aren't in jail yet. They usually quote that they are just as good as anybody in church.

One thing I learned early on is when arguing with a non believer, you are wasting your time until they are saved. The old verse about casting pearls before swine comes to mind. They cannot appreciate real wisdom from God if they don't believe God. I've seen people that sit in pews every week that will argue that homosexuality is fine to God and babies aren't people till mom says she wants them.

People that stupid cannot learn anything from Scripture. If she denies what you have said, then she probably has a problem with Scripture in the first place. Many Christians are frustrated when we drop the Wisdom of the ages on someone that denies the Wisdom of the ages. It's silly to waste time. There is nothing wrong with disagreeing in public, but you will NEVER change anything by arguing with them until they accept Jesus as their Savior. Arguing with these people is like pig wrestling. You get muddy and it frustrates the pig. Ask what her relationship is with Jesus and see what she says. That's where I would start.

58 posted on 01/18/2013 4:55:38 PM PST by chuckles
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