Liberals crack me up: when I hear one say, "penalties for gun violence must be harsher", I respond "better start building more prisons".
The typical response? "Our prisons are overflowing now! Too many Americans are in jail now! We can't build more prisons!"
You want to see a Leftist really flip out? Show him some stats on how many violent felons are children of welfare moms. Make the point that we would have far less violence if welfare didn't enable underclass single women to have so many dysfunctional kids.