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Top universities want you to homeschool
PenelopeTrunk.com ^ | April 27th, 2012 | Penelope Trunk

Posted on 12/30/2012 7:00:25 PM PST by King_Corey

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To: King_Corey
I have news for the colleges. I'm onto you. My sole criteria for choosing a college for my kids is, How much are you charging?

My daughter wants to be an elementary school teacher. At age 18, she would make a fine teacher, or student teacher, right now. But she needs a BA or MA to teach. Hence the need to take courses explaining that rats don't like to be electrocuted.

She was accepted at the local state college. Tuition: $7000. Academic scholarship: $1000. She'll be commuting from home and working weekends to pay the remainder.

Would I prefer a Catholic college? Yes. Can we afford it? No. And with Great Depression II coming, there's no way she's going to leave college with debt.

Meanwhile, with 12 years of homeschooling, she's prepared to do battle with the professors, if necessary. I told her to take an F if she has to.

41 posted on 12/31/2012 6:27:22 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: donmeaker
I homeschool my kids. It is lots of fun.

One of the dirty little secrets of homeschooling ;-)

The fact is, God intended children to be raised by their parents. Kids WANT to be with their parents. When they feel secure, they don't act neurotically. They're a joy to spend time with.

42 posted on 12/31/2012 6:30:35 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: King_Corey
Another amazing thing that people here do is lump things under one umbrella.

Not all public schools are Liberal Indoctrination Centers...not all homeschooling is utopia...but you don't want to hear that!

All the wonderful kids you describe after turning the TV and video games off, are the loud, obnoxious and turned loose on the public in Shopping Centers when other kids are in Indoctrination Centers.

That is my exposure to homeschooled kids...they don't know how to behave in public any more than public school kids.

I think we have a parenting problem. Too many parents think they're undisciplined, obnoxious darlings are perfect!

I feel sorry for kids.

43 posted on 12/31/2012 6:49:12 AM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: wintertime

“Colleges have learned that homeschoolers are more likely to have psychologically healthy living habits and are less of a drain on school personnel. “

Colleges want students that pay full boat tuition.

They want a certain amount of baggage - so that they can justify staffing psychologists and other bureaucracies within bureaucracies.

there are other demographics that are more important than anything else: Do you have an intact nuclear family? Did your parents go to college? Do your parents have the money to send you to college? Did you take rigorous academic courses - including post Algebra and advanced sciences?

Homeschooling self-selects for some of these traits, but by no means claims exclusivity for them.

Self-selecting statistics makes some folks (like you) claim that the mere act of homeschooling makes an individual kid smarter. It does not.

I wholeheartedly support homeschooling. Not just for smart kids that will do well in *any* academic environment, but especially for average kids who may get lost in the mix with a much larger demographic pool.

But it’s important to underscore that homeschooling, in and of itself, does not mean an individual kid is going to do better in a college or university environment. If you claim this, and you usually do, then you do not understand the difference between an individual and a statistical pool of kids.


44 posted on 12/31/2012 6:49:21 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: lonestar; verga
I think we have a parenting problem. Too many parents think they're undisciplined, obnoxious darlings are perfect!

In one sentence you nailed the problem

Nicely done

45 posted on 12/31/2012 7:20:35 AM PST by SoftballMominVA
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To: wintertime
Colleges have learned that homeschoolers are more likely to have psychologically healthy living habits and are less of a drain on school personnel.

Can you provide hard numbers or evidence?

46 posted on 12/31/2012 7:23:48 AM PST by SoftballMominVA
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To: SoftballMominVA

Thank you for my morning chuckle!


47 posted on 12/31/2012 7:26:41 AM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Gabz

oh you.... :)


48 posted on 12/31/2012 7:33:57 AM PST by SoftballMominVA
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To: lonestar

Another amazing thing that people here do is lump things under one umbrella.
Not all public schools are Liberal Indoctrination Centers...not all homeschooling is utopia...


True. But, under the current system of public education I don’t have any say in the education of my children. I do not have any voice concerning the curriculum, the other children that my children are forced to associate with, or even the teacher(s) that are assigned to teach my children. But I am required to pay property taxes to support the system.

For me, the main issue is having the FREEDOM to choose the path that I want to provide for my children. Sure, there is a lot of bad parenting out there. And many people might object to the choices that I personally make in raising and educating my children. But does that mean that I shouldn’t have the fundamental right to use my funds the best way that I see fit to raise my own children?


49 posted on 12/31/2012 7:59:00 AM PST by paint_your_wagon
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To: King_Corey
The author is slightly off. White women have no problem getting into top schools provided they go for STEM (science, math, engineering) majors. They are still the largest number of affirmative action admittances because of those fields. However most women don't excel at those fields and try for the liberal arts. Unfortunately, the SATs have been dumbed down to emphasize verbal skills (a typical female strength) at the expense of logic and math (a typical male strength) which makes for a large pool of females with high SAT scores. That and easy grades make SAT scores and grades less valuable. Grades are really worthless. One College Board study found that about 50% of their test takers had a 3.5 or above GPA.

So the women the author is talking about is the average woman looking for liberal arts degrees at top schools. Interesting to know that homeschooling makes an average woman stand out in a crowd.

50 posted on 12/31/2012 8:18:30 AM PST by Varda
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To: LearsFool

Harvard has an agenda, and their agenda isn’t to take the best and the brightest. :)


51 posted on 12/31/2012 8:50:35 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: wintertime
The want students who are “low maintenance” and without a lot of drama in their lives. Colleges have learned that homeschoolers are more likely to have psychologically healthy living habits and are less of a drain on school personnel.

What evidence do you that supports this, or is this just the opinion of someone, either yourself or an acquaintance?

52 posted on 12/31/2012 11:01:44 AM PST by Hope for the Republic (The 1st amendment is protected by the 2nd amendment)
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Can you provide hard numbers or evidence? Sure I had shopping to do for tonight's get together and you beat me by 3 1/2 hours.
53 posted on 12/31/2012 11:11:16 AM PST by Hope for the Republic (The 1st amendment is protected by the 2nd amendment)
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To: wintertime

I am a homeschool mom of four. I have been well connected in my hs communty and one would look out my back window and see another 8 to 14 hs kids playng on any given day. I was involved wth a number of hs groups for at least 15 years and also went to local conferences and held workshops and lectures in my specialty,at local and regional conferences.

I know what I am talking about.

The people who see hs kids requesting college admissions is also seeing a small selected group.


54 posted on 12/31/2012 11:23:21 AM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist Totalitarian Fascism coming to a country like yours.)
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To: wintertime

I am a homeschool mom of four. I have been well connected in my hs communty and one would look out my back window and see another 8 to 14 hs kids playng on any given day. I was involved wth a number of hs groups for at least 15 years and also went to local conferences and held workshops and lectures in my specialty,at local and regional conferences.

I know what I am talking about.

The people who see hs kids requesting college admissions are also seeing a small selected group.


55 posted on 12/31/2012 11:24:07 AM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist Totalitarian Fascism coming to a country like yours.)
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To: King_Corey

Having just gone through the process with one son in applying, getting into some top universities, and getting ready to start the process over with the next son, I can say without equivocation that this article is baloney.


56 posted on 12/31/2012 11:25:55 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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I can say without equivocation that this article is baloney.

Louie, I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship! See my Freepmail.

57 posted on 12/31/2012 11:40:27 AM PST by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: verga

“See my Freepmail.”

Are you saying you sent one? I haven’t seen it.


58 posted on 12/31/2012 11:44:07 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: sitetest

just sent it, sorry if it is long.


59 posted on 12/31/2012 12:22:10 PM PST by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
Kids WANT to be with their parents.

This is true for the vast majority, but there is a small fraction of parents that don't want to be with their own kids. And these kids will latch on to the nearest adult that shows them any kind of personal interest. Good or bad, This is why we see such a prevalence of gangs in inner cities. They become surrogate families.

60 posted on 12/31/2012 12:32:55 PM PST by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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