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To: Tax-chick

That sounds like a good idea in theory. However we both know who will end up paying. The woman.

They have pushed and pushed the free sex on society to the point that I’m not sure it can be undone. These people don’t know any better because they are not taught any better.

These men just have sex with the women and are gone. Yes there are laws to garnish wages for child support but finding him are so hard. He can up and quit and work “under the table” in a new york minute.

You notice everyone here is quick to “blame the woman” yet the men get off scott free.
Not saying we shouldn’t end welfare but should have something in place before hand to ensure the fathers pay child support. It is not fair the woman is paying for the kid and the father is out creating new ones by other mothers. Even if he is put in jail this means he can’t create new children.


44 posted on 12/26/2012 4:00:14 PM PST by Morgana (Time to play cowboys and muslims.)
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To: Morgana

I agree with you regarding moral responsibility, but the biological reality we can’t escape is that the woman has the child. Apart from your invasion mass-rape situation, if women have children with no known or responsible father, it’s because of the women’s stupid decisions to have sex with that loser.

It’s not cosmic justice, but I don’t see any way to get around the fact that we need to orient our incentives toward influencing women toward making smarter choices. We didn’t always have over 50% of children born out of wedlock. The moral environment changed, but above all, the financial constraints changed. A woman who doesn’t think there’s anything wrong with casual sex might nonetheless choose not to do it with “him,” if the outcome is likely to be her with a baby and no contribution.


48 posted on 12/26/2012 4:08:14 PM PST by Tax-chick (Peace to people of good will.)
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To: Morgana; Tax-chick
Not saying we shouldn’t end welfare but should have something in place before hand to ensure the fathers pay child support. It is not fair the woman is paying for the kid and the father is out creating new ones by other mothers. Even if he is put in jail this means he can’t create new children.

Actually, we should be ending the welfare incentives to have children. Those women will have as many children as they can as long as there is money to pay for them. When they reach the limit (4 kids in NYS IIRC) they stop having the babies.

Funny about that.

So if there was no more money handed out for each additional child, then they'd quit having babies sooner and only have families of 1 or 2.

But give them more money for each child and they'll take it right to the limit.

82 posted on 12/26/2012 8:57:51 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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