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To: theBuckwheat; muawiyah

It is silly that you think that price doesn’t matter, especially when it comes to the costs of routine life, electricity, water, food.

Why do you think that people go to such great lengths on an individual basis to save water, why do you think that people in rainless climates landscape with the cost of water as the primary concern?

In Southern California we don’t have the grass yards of my hometown of Houston, many yards are deliberately covered with rocks or some desert friendly covering, anything to avoid the cost of water.

I think that you are probably the most clueless poster I have seen here in years and that you don’t have any knowledge about anything regarding water or even normal life. Anyone who doesn’t think that cost matters in regards to water and sewage, is a moron, even Barbara Streisand who spends about %23,000.00 a year on water at her house, is probably aware that many people can’t, and don’t want to spend that money annually.

You sound like a typical liberal, solar and desalinated water before the market can make them affordable, because money is no object to a lefty idiot who can afford to import bottled water to wash his blue jeans and flush his toilets.


123 posted on 12/07/2012 11:36:33 AM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb Fischer's successful run in Nebraska)
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To: ansel12
I have no idea what you are taling about. Regarding Barbara Streisand my inlaws live all around her and on any given day one or maybe a dozen of them will be driving by in sight of her house.

Spent plenty of time in the area to know it is a desert. They get their water from the Colorado River basin ~ and a little further North they can get water from the Aquaduct.

I even know personally the first regular employee of the California Water Authority (to wit, the Aquaduct) whose job was to run up and down a long segment and reset valves.

Just what is it you want to know about water in California ~ 'cause you sure don't sound like you have the slightest idea about it.

126 posted on 12/07/2012 3:27:53 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: ansel12

“It is silly that you think that price doesn’t matter, especially when it comes to the costs of routine life, electricity, water, food.”

Of course price matters, but the entire thread had been about the shortage of MONEY that people are willing to allocate to gaining access to sufficient water of suitable quality. However, the shortage of MONEY has been called a shortage of water!

In truth, there is no place on earth that water cannot be provided to. It is only a matter of cost, for money can buy the equipment and manpower to facilitate the provisions. Part of the reason it can cost $1 million a year to keep a single soldier in a forward base in Afghanistan is because of the pallet loads of water that the military hauls by multiple air cargo hops and then makes final delivery by a helicopter escorted by Cobra gun ships.

Indeed, while water is carefully managed on the ISS, the crew can have as much as they want. It costs ten thousand of dollars a pound to haul it up there. [1] But like any other person who has the costs of routine life, electricity, water, food to allocate from their finite income, the cost of water forces people to make decisions about use and priority. The ISS is no different.

Indeed, where government distorts the costs of water, it can cause massive mis-allocation of capital and activity. This is part of the legacy of water rights in the western US. I live in the central US and at this very moment the public debate about water management is about how many millions of gallons a second should the Missouri River be allowed to flush into the Mississippi River. In most years, the Missouri is managed by flushing sufficient water into it so it is deep enough to run barge traffic for a certain number of months. This year parts of the Mississippi are almost too low for barge traffic. At St. Louis, that river is normally about a mile wide and it flows faster than you can walk.

If water was in “shortage” we would be running millions of truckloads of that water to the rest of the country. But that costs too much! Simple economics dictates that less expensive sources be exploited first. Again, the root issue is cost not availability.

Indeed, since the oceans are as full as ever, there literally cannot be a shortage of water, ever.

[1] http://www.wisegeek.com/what-are-launch-costs.htm


132 posted on 12/08/2012 5:19:10 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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