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To: Safrguns

Are you saying that if the Democrats defined “natural born citizen” you can be sure it’s correct?

There was never a “full Congressional hearing.” There was a hearing in the Judicial Committee, starring Patrick Leahy, and was signed by Leahy, Claire McCaskill, Barack Obama, Tom Coburn, Hillary Clinton, and Jim Webb.

Testimony from the hearing found that if you are born of American parents (that’s two), you are a natural-born American citizen.

Barack Obama was a co-signer of this resolution. So, I guess he too agrees that one needs two American parents to be eligible for POTUS.

http://www.theobamafile.com/obamanaturalborn.htm#leahyresolution

This hearing compromised John McCain, who is and has always been a “naturalized” American citizen.

John Sidney McCain III was born at the Colon Hospital, located at Avenida Melendez and 2nd Street, Manzanillo Island, City of Colon, Republic of Panama. The time of birth on the birth certificate issued by Panama Railroad Company (that owned the Colon Hospital) was 5:25 PM and the day and date of birth was Saturday, August 29, 1936.

John McCain’s father, John S. McCain Jr., was a US Naval officer serving in the Panama Canal Zone. His mother was Roberta Wright. Both were American citizens.

McCain gets his citizenship via the Immigration and Nationality Act — “by statute.”

Sec. 301. [8 U.S.C. 1401] The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:

(c) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents both of whom are citizens of the United States and one of whom has had a residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions, prior to the birth of such person;

Sec. 303. [8 U.S.C. 1403] Persons born in the Canal Zone or the Republic of Panama on or after February 26, 1904

(b) Any person born in the Republic of Panama on or after February 26, 1904, and whether before or after the effective date of this Act, whose father or mother or both at the time of the birth of such person was or is a citizen of the United States employed by the Government of the United States or by the Panama Railroad Company, or its successor in title, is declared to be a citizen of the United States.

http://theobamafile.com/_eligibility/fourcases.htm#McCain


48 posted on 11/20/2012 4:56:01 AM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: Beckwith

>>> Are you saying that if the Democrats defined “natural born citizen” you can be sure it’s correct?

No... I’m saying that the democrats cannot TEST McCain under one definition (birthplace + 2 citizen parents) and then let Obama slide on birthplace alone.

Obama fails NBC in 3 different ways...
1. WAS NOT BORN IN HAWAII... and burden of proof is on him.
2. Father was not US citizen... and nobody refutes that
3. Obama grew up in Indonesia as a citizen there... waiving any claim to citizenship here.

>>> McCain gets his citizenship via the Immigration and Nationality Act — “by statute.”

No... he is a NBC. The Naval hospital he was born in is considered US soil.

If you are born to two US citizen parents in an embassy, Military installation, or other US occupied facility, it qualifies as US Soil. No senate resolution was needed to determine that.

The senate resolution is moot where it goes beyond re-defining what the constitution already establishes.

There’s a big difference between applying and amending the constitution. Congress by resolution does not have the power to do the latter.


50 posted on 11/20/2012 5:59:37 AM PST by Safrguns
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To: Beckwith

“Testimony from the hearing found that if you are born of American parents (that’s two), you are a natural-born American citizen.

Barack Obama was a co-signer of this resolution. So, I guess he too agrees that one needs two American parents to be eligible for POTUS.”

Come on, people! Pull your heads out of your butts! McCain needed to have two citizen parents because he was born outside the country. IF Obama was born in Kenya, then he too would need two citizen parents. But if he was born in Hawaii, then under original intent, he needed NO citizen parents.

“It thus clearly appears that, by the law of England for the last three centuries, beginning before the settlement of this country and continuing to the present day, aliens, while residing in the dominions possessed by the Crown of England, were within the allegiance, the obedience, the faith or loyalty, the protection, the power, the jurisdiction of the English Sovereign, and therefore every child born in England of alien parents was a natural-born subject unless the child of an ambassador or other diplomatic agent of a foreign State or of an alien enemy in hostile occupation of the place where the child was born.

III. The same rule was in force in all the English Colonies upon this continent down to the time of the Declaration of Independence, and in the United States afterwards, and continued to prevail under the Constitution as originally established.”

http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0169_0649_ZO.html


56 posted on 11/20/2012 6:24:01 AM PST by Mr Rogers (America is becoming California, and California is becoming Detroit. Detroit is already hell.)
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