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To: MrChips; metmom; wintertime
You forgot the most important two:

1) Parents that don't get involved and then just whine about the system that they refuse to take an active role in.

2) Good Conservative teachers (Yes, there is such a beast.) that remove themselves from the equation rather than staying to fight the good fight.

Wintertime, feel free to make an irrelevant comment about "government functionaries" and "Useful idiots" or one of your other thinly veiled insults.

Metmom, feel free to defend him/her when he/she is actually during your cause more harm than good presenting the case for home schooling as part of the "fringe kook" segment of society.

34 posted on 11/17/2012 4:21:00 AM PST by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: verga; MrChips; wintertime

Fine. I’ll defend wintertime.

Wintertime is correct.

While my posting style is different, any parent worth their salt would avoid public schooling at all cost. I’ve pinged out way too many *Another Reason to Homeschool* threads to even begin to think of defending public education or to think that it can be fixed.

It’s worsening exponentially and has reached the point of no return. There is nothing which can compare to a good one-on-one education.

Considering the literacy rate that I’ve seen coming out of the public schools for decades now, the lack of motivation in the kids, and the abysmal graduation rates in some districts, the kids would not be worse off if they didn’t go to school.

Before public education as we know it today was instituted, the literacy rates in this country were higher. People who value an education will get one if they have to do it themselves. People who don’t will not get one even if someone tries to force it on them.

The beast has become nothing more than a corrupt from the top down, immoral, indoctrination center.

As far as those who feel called to teach, well, there has to be a better way to fulfill that calling because as idealistic as someone can be about it, the fact is, if you don’t fall in line, you lose your job. Teachers cannot successfully buck the system and make a difference.

I know many teachers in my tiny community and our schools have a reputation for being good as far as public schools are concerned, teachers who are trying to make a difference, HUGE parental involvement, but still, they are cranking out indoctrinated liberals who, while more literate than the average publicly educated student, are still barely functionally literate.

It’s the nature of the beast. Time to starve it. The Titanic is going down and wishful thinking is not going to keep it up.


35 posted on 11/17/2012 4:51:45 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: verga

Well, when you bus kids to Timbuktu and consolodate small schools into giant factory schools by closing neighborhood schools (which increses administrative bureaucracy, not the opposite), and keep kids in these secularized and Godless sterile bozes (e.g. Columbine), and then tax families to death so that both parents have to work all day and come home exhausted just trying to stay one step ahead of the IRS, well, then it is a bit fatuous to expect parental involvement.


40 posted on 11/17/2012 7:04:55 AM PST by MrChips (MrChips)
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