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To: rxsid
You've completely missed the point.

I haven't missed the point. And neither has anybody else.

North Korea could pass a law declaring tomorrow that every child henceforth born in the United States is born a North Korean citizen. If you want to tie it specifically to ethnicity or national origin, you could make it that anyone who has an ounce of Korean ancestry in them is born a citizen of North Korea.

Does that mean that all of a sudden every child born in America who has some Korean ancestry is disqualified from becoming President, because they were born DUAL CITIZENS of both the United States and North Korea? It's bullcrap. We and we alone decide who gets to be President. That some other country says you or I or Bobby Jindal or Barack Obama or Antonio DiGiorno or Suzi Suzuki was BORN a citizen of their country as well means bupkis.

So the question is: When the founding fathers and the framers of the Constitution said a person needed to be a natural born citizen, did they mean he had to have citizen parents? Vattel nothwithstanding (who had nothing at all to do with the meaning of the term in our Constitution), there is not a SHRED of evidence they meant any such thing. If they had, there wouldn't be a single word of dissent against "natural born citizen" birthers here at FR, and Mr. Constitution Mark Levin would have been pounding this point every other day for the past 4 years. And we would have every other conservative Constitutional expert in the country up in arms about it as well. The Heritage Foundation and National Review would have jumped on the bandwagon. They didn't, because there is nothing of merit in the theory at all.

Those are the facts. You're free to deny them. And of course, you will deny them. You will continue to produce your BS arguments that most people here at FR simply ignore. I try to ignore them myself, for the most part. But when the OP addressed a thread to everyone who said we ought to toss birtherism in the trash (where it belongs) and go out and find the VOTES to remove Obama from the White House, since there is no future in birtherism, well, that was a direct INVITATION to respond.

Anyway, you and the other birthers here have been denying reality for the past 4 years. Nobody expects you to change now. Nor do I expect that arguing with you is likely to have any effect at all. Trying to reason with a birther is about like trying to dig a pond with your ear. It just isn't likely to get anybody anywhere.

So go on and believe your silly fantasies. You will no matter what anybody says, anyway.

198 posted on 11/15/2012 10:30:20 AM PST by Jeff Winston
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To: Jeff Winston
"North Korea could pass a law declaring tomorrow that every child henceforth born in the United States is born a North Korean citizen. If you want to tie it specifically to ethnicity or national origin, you could make it that anyone who has an ounce of Korean ancestry in them is born a citizen of North Korea.

Of course they could pass such a law...nobody could stop them from doing so, but it would be worthless outside of North Korea.

Who would recognize it as being valid law (aside from NK)?

As for why nobody else spoke up on the issue...one word.

Fear.

Just who was going to challenge the eligibility of a (half) black President?

202 posted on 11/15/2012 12:50:03 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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