Posted on 11/14/2012 8:00:54 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
We were already past the point of no return. Romney could slow it, but not stop it.
So this election was not about turning it around, but managing the crash. Our priorities should be about making sure the crash gets blamed on liberals and liberal policies, and on disciplining the GOP.
"I'm Chris Christie, and I approve this message."
Unless the person in question has 100 million dollars and likes to donate to political campaigns, what, exactly would be accomplished by catering to the whims of a “True Conservative” in, say, Oklahoma, that didn’t vote for McCain or Romney because they were RINOs?
If you’re not going to show up, then you’re not going to be there to take a seat at the table. Tough toenails.
1. I exist, so your first point is wrong.
2. I live in OH.
And anecdotally, I know I’m not the only one. I live in a red hotbed county and I’m telling you the energy was much less than it was in 2004 and 2008.
Now will you listen, or will you hold on to your theories?
Akin lost MO by 15%, whereas Romney won it by 10%. I hate to say it, but I think - in conjunction with Mourdock’s and Akin’s gaffes - not having a rape or incest exception in the GOP abortion plank was what cost us the election. While we had it in prior elections, nobody paid much attention to it. Until 2012, when Akin and Mourdock finally put the plank up in neon lights. While everyone’s talking about immigration, I think the lack of a rape or incest exception may have elicited a much more visceral response from women voters.
Up next on PPV: Cat fight between Limbaugh and Hannity.
I agree with your comment. The problem is, the real crash (Greece style) is likely still 30 to 50 years out. We'll put bandaids on it and print money while our credit rating continues to plummet for some time to "try and save our country."
Proof of that will be this congressional compromise that is comming and will supposedly stops us from going over the fiscal cliff.
We are going to play another 4 years of defense at least. Then we may get a chance to plug some holes and shore things up in 2016 for a few years. It will only prolong the inevitable unless by some miracle, people on welfare, retirees, etc. stop getting benefits and turn to conservatism/republicans.
Yea. I don't believe in unicorns either.
Seriously. I mean it. Solemn pinky swear.
It's simply a straightforward, logistical matter of making those stinking, worthless dogs eat the @#$%ing dog food we deign to jam down their ungrateful neck holes, is all.
I'll just sit here, in this nice shady spot, and watch. You've obviously got this whole thing covered.
JEB BUSH 2016: "... Because Hillary Can't Win This Thing All By Herself, You Know."
Not to mention the fact that Republicans won the house by a good margin. People here delude themselves. The fact is that the democrats have put together a machine in the last 25 years that turns out very large percentages of democrat voters in urban environments and they provide large numbers for the left. If anybody thinks that LBJ’s Great Society doesn’t have a present day effect on National Elections they’re retarded.
Ideally you’re right, but I’m not going to bet on it. I think that Medical and pension costs for the baby boomers will kill us in five years.
This fact will be apparent to everyone in less than five years. I mean it’s apparent to us (you and me and many others) now and that consciousness will keep growing.
And that’s when the freakout->crash->more freakouts->further crash cycle starts getting real.
In other words, the anticipation of the crash causes the crash. Why do you think the government is so hepped on lying to us about the current state? And government lying is definitely a bipartisan affair.
Out of about 20 of my close political friends, I know 3 that refused to vote for Romney: 2 Ron Paul supporters and one die-hard ‘no lessor of two evils’ type.
Point is, we - as a party - told the Paulites to go to hell. We can’t blame them for saying, in effect, “You first.”
I have no doubt this includes enough voters to close the gap. In my neck of Texas, about a third of the Tea Party were Paulite. By shutting them down, we shut out the Tea Party influence this cycle. I’m not a Paulite, but telling a few million voters to take a hike seems to have been short-sighted.
This is especially true since Paul seemed to kin some with Romney in the primaries. Not having Paul and Palin on the campaign trail, actively appealing to the respective bases, was a blown opportunity.
This is what happens when you let consultants that hold grudges make decisions for you.
I think that ought to be the "theme" of Mittens' inaugural ball, come this January in DC: "THOSE PEOPLE DON'T EXIST -- !!!"
Also: I think Willy Wonka ought to be there, to hand out free gobstoppers to all the gowned and tuxedoed guests as they arrive. ;)
I have been attacked endlessly for this view point.
Some of these people are still in denial. For the GOP to win - we need the ron paul people, the tea party people, the palin supporters, the libertarian minded people etc.
We have to concentrate on the mid-term and take the Senate. Then we have the chance to roll back onerous regs, liberty-stifling edicts, Obamacare, and exploit America’s true energy resources. If we show the public for two years that this works and things start to turn around, then we can worry about 2016. We can’t do a blessed thing without the Senate.
Congratulations.
This is a good point.
I was mystified in the primaries that Ron Paul was somehow an “unacceptable” candidate while Mitt Romney was OK?!?!
I guess electability counts for something.
Except Mitt couldn’t get elected. Oops.
Whenever you hear any representative of the GOP-e fart or wheeze the word "electability"... what they really mean is: "Someone acceptable to Rachel Maddow."
i’ve lost credibility in all pundits and talk back radio. i feel as betrayed by them as by those who voted for obama and those who abstained from voting for romney so they could feel good about themselves.
Feeling good about yourself is way better than feeling suckered by the pundits and “conservatives” who told you to sell out for Romney.
Join us next time.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.