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To: Olog-hai
I'm not saying that it would solve all of Ireland's problems. But to ignore the simple fact that England has for 800 years murdered and oppressed the Irish is to close one's eyes to history. England is Ireland's main security risk. As far as I know, Germany has never invaded Ireland, outlawed their religion, dispossessed them of their land, taxed them without mercy, conscripted generations of their young men for imperial military service, kicked down their doors, opened up on peaceful crowds with machine guns, and literally took the food from the mouths of starving Irish children. England has done all of that to the Irish, and more. And what's more, coming up on 100 years of the English being out of Ireland, England still hates the Irish, perhaps more than it ever has.

An England riven by a restive Islamic population can only be good for Ireland.

As I was taught growing up, "England's misfortune is Ireland's opportunity."

19 posted on 11/11/2012 9:38:41 PM PST by Gluteus Maximus
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To: Gluteus Maximus

I’ve heard that line in primary and secondary school over in Ireland too. There is a missing dimension there, where the Irish upper classes did enough oppressing of their own people. Do some research in regards to the history surrounding Dermot MacMurrough and his relationship with Henry II of England—as well as the relationship of Henry II with Pope Alexander III, who granted that king lordship of Ireland in 1172. Countries do not maintain a long-lasting united (and for the most part, mutually-beneficial) relationship via constant oppression—there was more amiability than you seem to have heard of.

The 1916 Rising had a lot of communists involved, too; even Lenin regarded that as the first communistic (albeit failed) revolution, and took it as an inspiration for his own Bolshevik revolution.


22 posted on 11/11/2012 10:02:11 PM PST by Olog-hai
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