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CBO: "Fiscal cliff" would spark recession
AP ^ | 11-8-2012 | ANDREW TAYLOR

Posted on 11/08/2012 1:00:23 PM PST by ExxonPatrolUs

WASHINGTON (AP) -- A new government report says the so-called fiscal cliff would send the economy back into recession and cause a spike in the jobless rate to 9.1 percent by next fall. The Congressional Budget Office analysis says the combination of automatic tax increases and spending cuts would cut the deficit by $503 billion through next September. But that would cause the economy to shrink by 0.5 percent next year. The report comes as a newly re-elected President Barack Obama and Congress are seeking ways to avert the problems. The study estimates that America's gross domestic product would grow by 2.2 percent if the Bush-era tax rates were extended and expand by almost 3 percent if Obama's payroll tax cut and jobless benefits for the long-term unemployed are extended.

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To: ExxonPatrolUs

Combination of spending cuts and tax increases? My guess is the tax increases would be causing it way more than any spending cuts.


21 posted on 11/08/2012 1:23:00 PM PST by plain talk
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

This a pretty much an admission that the recession has not really ended, except for the infusion of made-up cash from the Fed. It’s being propped up by a credit card.


22 posted on 11/08/2012 1:23:17 PM PST by Repealthe17thAmendment (Is this field required?)
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To: fatnotlazy
The government has clverly and deliberately rendered the depression invisible. No government funded work crews busy at shovel ready jobs. And just consider the optics if all the foodstamp debit cards were replaced with vouchers for soup kitchens. Oh the lines we would see.
23 posted on 11/08/2012 1:24:36 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: fatnotlazy
The government has cleverly and deliberately rendered the depression invisible. No government funded work crews busy at shovel ready jobs building "infrastructure." And just consider the optics if all the foodstamp debit cards were replaced with vouchers for soup kitchens. Oh the lines we would see.
24 posted on 11/08/2012 1:25:10 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

I’ll take the cliff for 100 Alex. How much worse can it get?


25 posted on 11/08/2012 1:25:10 PM PST by linn37 (Newt supporter here.)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs
King Obama will fix it. Just throw more money down the crap hold. Democratic way borrow and piss it away. WE ARE DONE!
26 posted on 11/08/2012 1:26:28 PM PST by Logical me
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To: ExxonPatrolUs
We have been in a depression and even these mobbed up government crooks will not be able to lie about it soon.

LLS

27 posted on 11/08/2012 1:27:02 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (I AM JOHN GALT)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs
I am surprised they left the obligatory “nonpartisan” out the headline in front of CBO.

If Team Boehner starts from the position that the GOP cannot end up being blamed by the MSM for anything, then all they will be negotiating are the terms of surrender, which will end up being unconditional.

On the spending side, the “fiscal cliff” would take military spending back to what we were spending in 2006. That is in real dollars, i.e., adjusted for inflation. This is not the crisis for the military that has been portrayed. Obviously, a massive tax increase would be disastrous but we should not start from the perspective that military spending cuts should be off the table because we certainly can achieve efficiencies there without compromising national security.

28 posted on 11/08/2012 1:33:50 PM PST by Stingray51
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To: Stingray51
The GOP needs to quit trying to win the MSM narrative. It will never happen.

Just let this thing collapse, and it's survival of the fittest. I like our chances over the libs.

29 posted on 11/08/2012 1:38:50 PM PST by Repealthe17thAmendment (Is this field required?)
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To: fatnotlazy

How can we go back to another recession when we never left the last one.

Obama wants us to go over the cliff, It’s amajor part of Cloward-Pliven


30 posted on 11/08/2012 1:41:54 PM PST by Venturer
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

What utter BS. So what is the CBO’s answer? More borrowing? How does that help anything? Are we insane? If someone is using credit cards to live above their means, is the answer to cut back to live within income or is the answer to get a couple more credit cards? We truly have gone insane as a nation to think that its irresponsible to cut spending.


31 posted on 11/08/2012 1:42:28 PM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

What utter BS. So what is the CBO’s answer? More borrowing?


More importantly, what is the POTUS’s answer? Unfortunately, Bug Out Barry is headed to Burma next week to avoid this issue. There will be zero leadership from the WH for the next four years and we will pay for it.


32 posted on 11/08/2012 1:52:20 PM PST by lodi90
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

The CBO revenue estimates are based on static analysis.
Tax collections will certainly not increase as much as they say, not after the first couple of months. Incomes will fall, income will be hidden or delayed, people will lose their jobs and lose all their income, etc.

Dynamic analysis of revenues should be based on their estimate of the economic effects. They have plenty of data with which to model a dynamic revenue scenario.


33 posted on 11/08/2012 1:57:07 PM PST by buwaya
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

Good, no deal. America voted for Obama, this is a consequence of that.


34 posted on 11/08/2012 1:58:56 PM PST by Dragonspirit (Always remember President Token won only by defecting on his CFR pledge.)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

Propaganda and lies in order to blame what is coming on the republicans. There is no way out of bad times here. It is simply impossible. It cannot be solved in a way that is both mathematically and politically possible. And we have gone so far into the entitlement realm that any mathematical solution leads to mobs and riots from those that feel entitled.


35 posted on 11/08/2012 1:59:13 PM PST by Revel
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To: lodi90

YEP!


36 posted on 11/08/2012 2:06:21 PM PST by KansasGirl ("If you have a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."--B. Hussein Obama)
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