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Do You Trust Your Unionized Postman in Battle Ground States?
Me | November 4 2012 | RetSignman

Posted on 11/04/2012 1:26:56 PM PST by RetSignman

In light of several instances of voting 'irregularities' already sited in some of the states, maybe we should consider one that could be critical.

We all know that millions of voters have opted to vote by absentee ballot in battle ground states but the system relies on the American Postal Workers Union to deliver those ballots.

WHAT IF certain zip codes are targeted by the Unionized Postal Workers and they never arrive to their destination?

Think that is paranoia thinking? Just revisit past elections where ballots were found in dumpsters.

Fortunately, many of these battle ground states have links where you can check the status of your ballot, use those sites to affirm your vote.

This administration has had four years to prepare for this election, you've got just days to make sure they don't steal this election.


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KEYWORDS: ballots; union; usps
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To: RetSignman

I hand deliver my absentee ballot to the clerk every single time.

Always eliminate the middleman if possible.


21 posted on 11/04/2012 10:15:21 PM PST by Darren McCarty (Holding my nose one more time to get rid of Eric Holder)
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To: RetSignman

My postwoman seems to be OK. I always get my conservative direct/junk mail.


22 posted on 11/04/2012 10:17:53 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Obama should change his campaign slogan to "Yes, we am!" Sounds as stupid as his administration is.)
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To: RetSignman

No. I always use the ballot box. Our city has a huge red ballot box in the middle of downtown that is always located on it’s own small traffic island. It’s like a 2Xsized mailbox. It is only used during elections, and is very convenient. This year, I used the smaller inside box, because I had to be in the election department anyway.


23 posted on 11/04/2012 11:21:03 PM PST by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: Darren McCarty

24 posted on 11/05/2012 12:42:44 AM PST by clearcarbon
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

[...see if your ballot completed the trip.]

I couldn’t agree more, if Romney/Ryan survive the efforts of this corrupt administration, union power is going to be greatly diminished and they know it.

There is nothing they won’t do to prevent them from winning this election.


25 posted on 11/05/2012 5:00:10 AM PST by RetSignman (REMEMBER THE 2010 MOVEMENT)
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To: Vermont Lt

See the link at Post 5, above.

And my “mail carrier” (or someone at the post office), has a nasty habit of scrawling rude notes on my National Review magazine. Of course, this is illegal as well but doesn’t stop them.

Criminals and union thugs don’t care about the law, that is why they are criminals and union thugs.

Would you or I risk out job my misdirecting one or a thousand ballots? No. But they are criminals and they don’t care about the law. . .that is why they are criminals and union thugs.

Your logic doesn’t hold up, otherwise merely making something against the law would be enough to stop it from happening.

You are presuming the mailman has intellect and morals.

You are mistaken in both cases.

The loss of mail while en-route through incompetence and a just-don’t-care attitude is enough reason that I never send anything of any value via the post office. I don’t trust them. . .and a ballot is valuable.

Urban myth. . .mailmen not delivering the mail or tampering with the mail. . .an urban myth?

Consider, from the USPS. Very interesting stats: https://postalinspectors.uspis.gov/radDocs/pubs/06anrept.htm

And consider: “The recent discovery in Bonny Doon, Calif., of a former mail carrier’s old stash was not exactly unprecedented. There’s also the recent arrest of a Detroit postal carrier who squirreled away 9,000 pieces of mail into a storage locker, a work dodge worthy of a Seinfeld plot. A week earlier, a postman was nailed for hoarding 27,000 letters in Leeds, England; the week before that revealed a postal hoarder with 20,000 letters in Frankfurt, Germany. (”[He] didn’t deliver mail addressed to himself either,” a police statement dryly noted.) And all of them were dwarfed by the North Carolina postman who admitted in August to filling his garage and burying in his backyard nearly a tractor trailer’s worth of undelivered junk mail.

But the hoarding and abandonment of mail is a phenomenon that extends at least back to 1874, when Providence, R.I., postman Benjamin Salisbury was caught throwing mail into the ocean “to avoid the trouble of delivery.” Some things don’t change much; a Long Island postman used the same MO in 1954, when he blamed a bum leg from the war for forcing him to dump his mail off a local pier. The scheme kind of worked … until the tide came in.

In 2006, the last year the U.S. Postal Service released figures, there were 515 arrests and 466 convictions for “internal theft.” That figure includes abandonment and hoarding cases, where the motive has remained constant since the days of penny postage: A worker gets overwhelmed or simply disinclined to finish his route. “It’s not a huge issue,” Agapi Doulaveris of the U.S. Office of the Inspector General told me. “We work on referrals.” http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/culturebox/2008/11/the_j_crew_catalog_destroyed_my_spirit.html

Oh, and yeah, you have to KNOW your mail has gone missing before you can report it. So, if you mail your ballot and the mailman “loses” it, there is no way you would know.

Of course, one ballot or just a few, what does that matter. It’s not like it is important or anything.


26 posted on 11/05/2012 5:08:50 AM PST by Hulka
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To: Hulka

If you want to see your mailman fired, keep copies of the magazine and bring them to his supervisor.

I know someone that is voting for Obama. That does not mean EVERYONE is voting for Obama. To use your logic, every letter carrier is a union thug who is a hoarder. It simply is not true.

Your paranoia is kind of disturbing.

Not EVERYONE is out to get you. Well, maybe you....but not me.


27 posted on 11/05/2012 6:23:07 AM PST by Vermont Lt (The dude abides.)
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To: Hulka

Also, if you think that letter carriers (to use the proper term) are stupid, you again, are sadly mistaken.

Or immoral.

I will tell that to the letter carrier on my street that has a Master’s and is pretty high in the masons.

But you would rather not use your head.

And you call them stupid.


28 posted on 11/05/2012 6:25:24 AM PST by Vermont Lt (The dude abides.)
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To: Vermont Lt
Have done. Spoke in person with some supervisor and he tells me “these things happen” and that it would be difficult at best to catch the guy defacing my magazines.

I provide a link to a website where the post office lists their criminal behavior and yet, you insist that the charge of post office malfeasance is a “myth.”

Paranoia. . .I give examples of the ineptness of the post office and a low life employed there and somehow that is paranoia?

Your slavish devotion to an unaccountable, bankrupt and totally unprofessional agency is disturbing.

Saaayyyy. . .you wouldn't be one of those union drones. .. nah. . .not you.

Have a nice day, sunshine.

29 posted on 11/05/2012 7:30:58 AM PST by Hulka
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To: Hulka

Nope...not a drone. But I worked there when I was in college. And I know what I speak of.

You do not.

I suggest paranoia because this thread is about letter carriers “stealing absentee ballots.” If you believe that will happen, then you are displaying paranoia.

And before you start crying about how inept they are, tell me please how you could send a piece of first class mail across the country to ANY address in the country for less than fifty cents.

And they do it billions of times a day.

Yeah, they are inept.

And when you talk about bankrupt, you might want to look at why that has happened. It happened because YOUR representative in Congress authorized the theft of their retirement funds to fund the remainder of the civil service.

If they funded their retirement as any other organization in the country, public or private, their surplus would be in the billions.

You might want to read more than a headline sometimes. You might just learn something.

Idiot.


30 posted on 11/05/2012 7:42:25 AM PST by Vermont Lt (The dude abides.)
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To: Vermont Lt

[tell me please how you could send a piece of first class mail across the country to ANY address in the country for less than fifty cents.

And they do it billions of times a day.]

The Union Postmen or women are the first to lay their hands on our mail, THEY decide if the mail they pick up will go ANYWHERE, let only across the country.


31 posted on 11/05/2012 12:21:49 PM PST by RetSignman (REMEMBER THE 2010 MOVEMENT)
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To: Vermont Lt

[tell me please how you could send a piece of first class mail across the country to ANY address in the country for less than fifty cents.

And they do it billions of times a day.]

The Union Postmen or women are the first to lay their hands on our mail, THEY decide if the mail they pick up will go ANYWHERE, let only across the country.


32 posted on 11/05/2012 12:22:29 PM PST by RetSignman (REMEMBER THE 2010 MOVEMENT)
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