some steno to cook with. You be 100 times better off than many right now.
Posted on 11/02/2012 9:10:40 AM PDT by Kartographer
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Seems like it would be really hard to be a prepper if you lived in a 10th floor flat in the city. Those are the kind of people that probably need info and help a lot.
BUT BUT BUT
They are dumpster diving.
New Yorkers only throw away the best.
New York garbage gets a 5 star rating.
Buy a dollar a week. It's easy on the budget that way.
Someone in these circumstaces isn't going yo be in a position to survive on their own for a year, granted...but how hard is it to fill part of a closet with enough supplies to last for a couple of weeks?
Solar stuff and crank stuff are not always the best deal for emergencies. Unless the rechargeable batteries are the replaceable kind they are useless when the built in batteries age & fail. Also some of the crank handles are fragile.
Not at all, many of us live in apartments and cities, probably the great majority.
Someone living in an apartment or condo, should still be prepared for months of self-sufficiency, or at least weeks.
Greetings, Everyone!
I wanted to share with folks what’s been happening here at The Bunker in the way of preparedness - especially in the Anything Can Happen Department.
As most everyone knows from the recent nuptials, Sarge and the Bride have The Grrrlz, Brainiac and Jailbait, who live with us. The son, Maniac, was living with his family in El Paso.
Was.
It seems that Maniac, his wife Mocha, and their toddler girl Little Diva, were staying with family while they built a nest egg. HER family threw them out with barely any prior warning. So after some kitchen-table decisions, Sarge and The Bride got them moved here to The Bunker. It took a four-day trek across five states, with one vehicle limping all the way, but we got them here safe and sound.
Now, we have a situation. Five adults, a teen, a toddler, two cats and a dog are now under one roof. Furniture has been relocated, the place has been GI’ed, appliances and storage space reorganized, food and menus replanned, and future ops discussed.
It REALLY helps if your new tribe members enjoy handyman chores, fixing and building things, creative cooking, campfires in the backyard, and socializing as a group.
We have upcoming issues to discuss at the next Tribal Council. More later!
Here’s something all preppers should see...
Of course, now that they have shown the whole world how this model works, it might not be the best choice, but it will give you ideas as to how to build your own...
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=192_1351748690
I doubt people living in big cities up north even think of this stuff. From what I understand, lots of people in NYC don’t even own cars, so they’ll never get out. You would think they’d at least fill their bathtubs up. That’s what we always did in Fla
This stove is for OUTDOOR USE ONLY. Never use this stove in a tent, car, house, or inside any enclosed area. This stove consumes oxygen and produces carbon monoxide gas, which is poisonous and has no odor. This stove can easily ignite nearby combustible materials and flammable liquids or vapors. If you use this stove in an enclosed area you can be killed or seriously burned. Never let children use this stove. Keep children at least 10 feet (3+ meters) away from the stove and cooking area, and supervise them at all times. (this from the product site)
Stove in a Can 13 dollars.
Sterno stove - under 10 dollars, very sturdy and the Sterno fueled stove is safe to use indoors.
For the cost of two large cans of Sterno, you can buy a Trangia alcohol burner - then you can use 91% alcohol for fuel. The yellow bottle HEET works in the Trangia as well.
Sterno makes a stove 'kit' that you might find on sale about now.
Finally, there is a site called "Poverty Prepping" that has some good stuff on it - worth a look anyway. Looks at low costs ways to get prepared.
That is worth repeating, they are gimmick junk, and not made for long term storage.
If you can find one of these, then you will have a true, forever flashlight. This will store for generations, and work for generations, 50-70 years and more, it uses a capacitor, and they are way modest on describing it, I have one and it will produce what they describe, but it will continue offering reduced amounts of light for a couple of hours, and after shaking it for 60 seconds, you can leave it alone, and use it next week.
This is the only true shakelight. NightStar 4 shake light
Doesn’t weeks worth of food, water and cooking stuff take up a pretty good amount of space? Lots of those apts in big northern cities aren’t very large. A weeks worth of water for a family of 4 is almost 100gals isn’t it?
stuartcr~:” Seems like it would be really hard to be a prepper if you lived in a 10th floor flat in the city. Those are the kind of people that probably need info and help a lot. “
Store canned goods under your bed , in plastic storage containers with lids (rotate periodicly)
Have an emergency practice dinner every month
False ceilings in the top of closets
Cut-outs in bed headboard for personal protection firearm
Bookcase extended with false back wall for storage
Emergency items (flashlight, emergency battery radio, matches, etc.) stored in 5 gallon food grade pail ( can be used for drinking water storage when items used .
Basement storage supplies elevated above floor on pallets, behind common basement items
Gather bulk food purchases into residence at night (away from prying eyes)
So many more options for a homeowner, but this is a starting point
Is that doable for rental apts in big cities up north?
That is worth repeating, they are gimmick junk, and not made for long term storage.
The reviews on Amazon (74 of them)suggest the HYBRID SOLAR POWERED FLASHLIGHT WITH EMERGENCY BATTERY BACKUP work as promised. Perhaps a little over hype. A few bad reviews but most say the claims are true.
I have two shake lights...just need more lighting, and solar/crank is what I'm leaning to.
stuartcr~:” Is that doable for rental apts in big cities up north? “
Yeah , it can be done effectively and discretely
Most rentals are concerned with not storing flamable items .
The false ceiling in closet can be plywood which is then painted the same color as the interior of the closet.
Surplus foods can then be optionally shared with neighbors , if the need arises.
The “food grade” bucket can store emergency items, and when those items are being used, the bucket can be filled with drinking water before the emergency strikes
Absent a “food grade” bucket,more water can be stored in a clean bathtub
The key is to prepare BEFORE the emergency arises, not during it !
(The ‘rule of three’ applies= you can go 3 minutes without air, 3 days without water, 3 weeks without food).
No, I live in a small space, and I have 700 pounds of well packed, purchased food for long term storage, and my normal sized kitchen holds months worth of regular foods and cans.
I store some water in that closet with the boxed #10 cans, a couple of weeks worth for the luxury and for days when I might be injured or sick, but I depend on high quality backpacking water filters for the long term.
Which reminds me, everyone should have a back pack, when you go to get water or scrounge for stuff, you want to carry it in the pack, no one wants to carry a five gallon water container in their hands for any distance, it is why I carry a small pack in my car, big enough to put the gas can in.
In an emergency, a family of four that wants to breeze through 100 gallons a week of water, better be motivated to do the work necessary to feed that luxurious use. A personal water filter also means that people drink the water that they come across, and refill their water personal bottle for the day.
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