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To: Uncle Chip

the USADA as an impartial organization is loooooong gone.

you are citing their own info about themselves.

I am sure the original inquisition thought they were fair too.

fair to athletes after seven years?
fair to prohibit cross examaination and inquiry?
fair to prohibit inquiry in to HOW evidence was obtained and what deals were cut?
fair to prohibit pre-trial/hearing discovery?
fair to prohibit competing organizations...(IOW prevent other groups from competing and thus this is little more than a turf war)

citing the pr memo changes nothing.

Armstong may very well be guilty as all sin, but the USADA is more culpable in this mess for its utter failure to provide a valid impartial forum. The outcome was pre-ordaned and no amount of due process with challenged their turf was going to be allowed.

A real honest trial/hearing would have given them credibility and eliminated any conspiracy debate.

I do hope at this point a new body is formed and the USADA is defunded.


130 posted on 10/22/2012 4:44:40 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory
They use the rules of the American Arbitration Association. Nothing wrong with that.

Arbitration is not the due process of the American court system with all its constitutional rights. But every cyclist is under its rules.

The problem is that LA doesn't like anybody's rules. He wants to manipulate every institution for his own benefit.

At the USADA everyone gets the same due process -- but LA wants his own special due process.

He wasn't willing to compete in a fair cycling race unless he had the advantage and he wouldn't contest the USADA charges unless he had the advantage there as well.

The outcome was pre-ordaned

The outcome was pre-ordained when LA saw that he had 26 witnesses against him all of whom were prepared to testify just how they were able to dope and still pass all those tests that LA intended to present as his evidence. In short their testimony would have trumped his evidence big time.

131 posted on 10/22/2012 5:04:10 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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