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To: JRandomFreeper
I brought up living like people lived 200 years ago. We have access to and can stockpile supplies that will significantly improve our lives that were not available 200 years ago, which is what makes your life expectancy bit irrelevant. We can stockpile antibiotics, chemicals to make bleach, things like that. Learning how to provide food for ourselves without industry to provide it is what I meant by living like people lived 200 years ago, which is why I specifically mentioned animal husbandry. Vegetables will be available much sooner than antibiotics or chemicals when the SHTF, so it seems wise to stockpile the things that will be more precious and more rare.

I've done that, btw, for over a year, in an unheated shack on the side of a mountain with no commercial electricity and only a manual well for water.

I guess, by your estimate, that was before you were 32.

155 posted on 10/20/2012 3:29:04 PM PDT by Feline_AIDS (A gun in hand is better than a cop on the phone.)
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To: Feline_AIDS
Nope, but average isn't everyone. It did, however, nearly kill me. Nothing 2 weeks in intensive care and a year of recovery couldn't fix.

You didn't address the percentage of population required for agriculture 200 years ago vs today.

Old timey methods of agriculture were very labor intensive. You aren't producing anti-biotics or going to school when you are weeding a field by hand.

As I said before, read up about Norman Borlaug. He was responsible for the lives of literally billions of people. Including you and me.

Going back to the old ways would mean the death of billions. Literally.

/johnny

165 posted on 10/20/2012 6:13:09 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Feline_AIDS
I forgot to mention that 'organic' farming methods like they used 200 years ago required 3 times the land for the same output as agribusiness uses today.

Personally, I'd like for there NOT to be a massive population die off. The more people we have, the more geniuses we have. And we need smart folks. Lots of 'em.

/johnny

166 posted on 10/20/2012 7:46:26 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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