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To: arrogantsob
The Founders gave one example as to WHY "The Right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed". It wasn't the only reason, just one. It also isn't a limit. That you HAVE to participate in the active militia to be able to exercise that Right.

You've been reading too much Brady Bunch propaganda. Or writing it, one of the two...

Federal power was to be extremely limited, but supreme within that scope. Art 1 Sec 8 was the definition of what it was supposed to do. Everything else, via the 10th Amendment, was off limits. NASA? The DEA? The Dept of Education? Dept of Energy? FCC/FAA? Not a single one has any relation to an Art 1 Sec 8 defined power of the FedGov.

The "general welfare" clause in the Preamble was never supposed to have the force of law. That came latter via judicial activism.

Something else I am also certain you will support as your "spirit of the constitution" has the rancid whiff of a "living Constitution" idiocy about it.

You are so far; pro-welfare, pro-gun control, and pro-taking of Private property for Private gain. You've used Monarchism as an excuse along the lines of "everyone has done it".

Gee... They are your posts. Right there. Just up thread for all to see... No, little troll, we won't agree on much. You see, I'm a conservative. You aren't.

101 posted on 10/18/2012 5:46:52 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Dead Corpse

Exactly, everyone can see you are lying. Making up crap and claiming that is what I believe. If I bring up history you claim that means I approve of it. If I say that a T-Rex ate plant eaters, you claim I root for the T-Rex.

Militia’s were what they were no matter what you believe. They weren’t figments of my imagination. Your confusion comes from thinking that “the People” means every individual cannot be prevented from having arms.

Article I is not a list of only the things the fed can do. It is a general framework and the General Welfare clause expands what is constitutional beyond that general list because that was what the Founders wanted. The proposal that the power be limited to the specific things listed was REJECTED by the Founders at the Constitutional Convention. ALL the major Founders, even Jefferson, understood there were powers outside those specified. Hamilton’s essay on the National Bank should clear up what is constitutional and what is not. He was, after all, the greatest lawyer in the country and the greatest expert on the Constitution.

According to your belief the nation could not have even lawfully bought the Louisiana Purchase; border control is not even mentioned is that unconstitutional; no mention of an air force, is that unconstitutional?

A mere written document means nothing to those determined to ignore it, so the spirit of the People is the most significant element in a society based upon law. If the people is degenerate even the best constitution means nothing.

But Libertarians don’t believe in constitutions in any case so why would you care?


103 posted on 10/18/2012 11:00:50 AM PDT by arrogantsob (The Disaster MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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