Posted on 10/11/2012 8:48:42 AM PDT by bigbob
This is just bad taste masquerading as discernment.
In terms of female roles, Shakespeare is the finest of the Elizabethan/Jacobean era and this in particular is an area where he clearly bests Marlowe.
My list of the 15 most overrated white people, which I have posted on earlier threads. I made a couple of changes, replacing Robert F. Kennedy with Margaret Mead and Elizabeth Taylor with Rachel Carson.
Karl Marx
Muhammad
John F. Kennedy
Woodrow Wilson
John Maynard Keynes
Franklin D. Roosevelt
Harry Truman
Margaret Mead
Albert Gore, Jr.
Ernesto “Che” Guevara
Edward R. Murrow
Bob Dylan
Rachel Carson
John Lennon
Walter Cronkite
than = to. I’m autocorrecting myself out of fluency in my native tongue.
Another case was “What Lester brung, Stan Getz”, where black jazz musicians complain about Getz learning and profiting from Lester Young’s tenor style.
I’m not making it, but a better argument is that Little Richard was an underrated black person.
Personally, I think Jerry Lee Lewis is the Man.
Columbus isn’t great for being a governor. Nor was he the first to realize the world is a sphere. He wasn’t even the first European to discover the American continents. He is great because he had the determination convice someone to finance him, and the courage to persevere when his crew wanted to turn back. What he did was to permanently and massively change the world. What he did after that is irrelevant.
Shakespeare’s feel for human nature was truly outstanding. No over-rated there.
I still wouldn’t invite him to dinner.
Hannity has been having him on lately as well.
There is indeed question. In fact you’re very mistaken.
Elvis was humble, especially by superstar standards. He didn’t go around boasting he was a genius or the voice of a generation like others have done since. He was always quick to give credit to his many influences. These influences included country music artists, white gospel singers, and black gospel singers. Elvis grew up around all of this. How could he not be influenced by it all? It’s not like he was a studio creation where he and his handlers decided to take X from one genre, Y from another. If Elvis ripped off black artists, then he also ripped off country and gospel artists.
He took it all in and it formed his style. And his style - the blend and fusion of country, gospel, rockabilly, r & b, etc - , put forth by one of the all time great voices, was unique and original.
One could criticize Elvis for allowing himself to get songwriting credit on some of those early songs that he actually didn’t deserve at all. That would be fair. But that was a business decision made by Colonel Tom Parker, and Elvis was always weak when it came to business decisions or standing up to Parker.
“Anyone else notice that the subtle dehumanization of whites in this society is becoming a little less subtle each year?”
In fact, they talk about us like the “other.” It makes me feel so insignificant.
Big Mama Thornton’s song was a big hit on the R&B charts before Elvis; I am sure there was no confusion over who did the original there.
Elvis did employ a good stable of songwriters like Mac Davis, Ronnie Milsap, and Leiber and Stoller.
But I loved that Zeppelin song; good stuff. Going to the theater on Oct 17 to see the iMax version of the 02 reunion show, Celebration Day.
No room for the Great Clinton, either one?
I’d turn off a Clinton faster than I would Bob Dylan or John Lennon.
Maybe I should just focus on overrated politicians. Most “entertainers” are overrated and probably deserve their own list. Lady Gaga, Madonna....
Led Zeppelin's version of "When the Levee Breaks" is certainly different from the original. However, it fails to capture the pathos of the original, which was likely inspired by catastrophic floods of 1927 and 1929 in the lower Mississippi Valley.
The original version is unavailable on Youtube, but I found it on a Chinese site.
When the Levee Breaks--Memphis Minnie & Kansas City Bob, 1929
Indeed, the Clintons, Moochelle, Colin Powell, John Murtha and Chris Dodd are among those who deserve consideration.
“Ernesto “Che” Guevara”
Oh, yeah. I get it. A white-hispanic like Zimmerman? :-)
Although Willie Mae Thornton had the original version of "Hound Dog," as far as I now, Freddy Bell & the Bell Boys was the first act to perform the arrangement which Elvis Presley used. I like their version better than his.
Hound Dog--Freddy Bell & the Bell Boys (1955)
“Che” Guevara was a native Argentine of Spanish and Irish descent. He probably had no Indian ancestry.
“Indeed, the Clintons, Moochelle, Colin Powell, John Murtha and Chris Dodd are among those who deserve consideration.”
Yeah, maybe remove race from the criteria and go for a Top 20 or 25 overrated politicians list.
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